Return-Path: Received: (qmail 21728 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:53:07 -0000 Received: from murphys.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.225) by mailstore with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:53:07 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: (qmail 15403 invoked from network); 13 Nov 2002 11:51:47 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 13 Nov 2002 11:51:47 -0000 X-SQ: A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.10) id 18Bw2I-0005Fl-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:50:22 +0000 Received: from [147.197.200.9] (helo=hestia.herts.ac.uk) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 18Bw2H-0005Fc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:50:21 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 18BvfK-00008g-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:26:38 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18BvfH-0007Hc-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:26:35 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20021113110754.00a927f8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 13 Nov 2002 11:26:34 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" In-reply-to: <003401c28afd$99622420$f9997ad5@laptop> References: <001901c28af1$aa0faa60$9d740450@oemcomputer> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MailScanner: No Virus detected Subject: LF: Re: Audio filters Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed X-Spam-Status: No, hits=-0.4 required=5.0tests=DEAR_SOMEBODY,IN_REP_TO,REFERENCES,SPAM_PHRASE_00_01version=2.42 Sender: Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Dear Kevin, LF group, At 10:11 13/11/2002 +0000, you wrote: >I'm currently trying to work out a way of getting more audio filtering >into my latest 136kHz regenerative receiver without increasing the number of >active devices The small ferrite cored inductors that are fairly readily available can be used to make passive bandpass filters of several hundred Hz BW quite easily. If you don't mind winding some pot cores, and have some test equipment (audio generator & voltmeter), passive filters with bandwidth down to 50Hz are not too difficult. With limited dynamic range, you might be better to go for a passive preselector, which can also be made with several 100Hz bandwidth, if you can find suitable pot cores. It is certainly possible to achieve adequate sensitivity with a small number of active devices - the electromechanical SAQ receiver I made a while back had none at all of course. Another project along these lines I once tried was a direct conversion RX for 80m, which was basically a diode mixer impedance matched to an antenna a pair of headphones, and a VFO. A signal of 2uV was audible with no gain at all; with a single transistor audio stage, you could hear down to the band noise level. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU