Return-Path: Received: (qmail 10866 invoked from network); 18 Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from marstons.services.quay.plus.net (212.159.14.223) by mailstore with SMTP; 18 Jul 2002 11:35:49 -0000 Received: (qmail 19542 invoked by uid 10001); 18 Jul 2002 11:39:27 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from post.thorcom.com (193.82.116.70) by marstons.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 18 Jul 2002 11:39:26 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-SQ: A Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17V9UB-00072p-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:30:19 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 17V9UA-00072k-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:30:18 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 17V9U9-0003f7-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:30:17 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17V9U4-0003sP-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:30:12 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020718110639.00a83800@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Thu, 18 Jul 2002 12:30:09 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?LF:_Re:_Activity_from_DLF=B4s_360m_mast?= In-reply-to: <000801c22db8$45e58fa0$74e5fc3e@l8p8y6> References: <003001c22c3d$9fbd3680$5f74ccd4@DEFAULT> <5.1.0.14.0.20020716150706.00b88cf8@pb623250.kuleuven.be> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Mal, LF Group, At 18:34 17/07/2002 +0100, you wrote: >How could you consider this as an experiment, the outcome is obvious, a big >signal from a commercial antenna installation. This is not amateur radio >experimentation on LF. If that is the only outcome you are interested in, then that is probably true. But after a few years of LF operation there is remarkably limited quantitative information available about LF antennas, although this lack of knowledge does not stop people loudly voicing their opinions on the subject. Indeed, in amateur radio as a whole, there is probably more rubbish talked, and less reliable information, about antennas than any other subject. This is surprising, because everybody acknowledges antennas are "the most important part of the station", and real facts and figures would be much more useful than statements like "I got 599 from a ZY7 the other day". Even if no operation were possible from the DLF site, it would be an interesting experience for the members of the expedition - it isn't every day you get to play around with "proper" LF hardware! If nothing else, a big signal from DL would be an opportunity for stations who do not have good LF receiving capability to hear something interesting on the band - this was certainly true at the G3WSC Puckeridge expedition. Then there is the opportunity to make measurements such as field strength and antenna impedance, which you don't often get to do with this type of antenna. This would be a valuable addition to the very limited factual information we have about LF antennas of all shapes and sizes - the fact that the signal from such an antenna is big is no surprise, but "how much bigger?" is the interesting question. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU