Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5240 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2002 14:47:38 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2002 14:47:38 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22807 invoked from network); 8 Apr 2002 13:36:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 8 Apr 2002 13:36:25 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16uaoP-0004Vr-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:12:05 +0100 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16uaoO-0004Vm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 16:12:04 +0100 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16uZHU-0000Gj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:34:00 +0100 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16uZHT-0001dm-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:33:59 +0100 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020408141056.00b0bcd8@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 14:28:34 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: Re: LF: Giulio re Horzontal wires In-reply-to: <004a01c1de7d$48815bc0$76c501d5@default> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear LF Group, I would agree with Alan - just about any DX station seems to be subject to fading, more so at night but definitely also sometimes during the day. I have noticed deep fading on signals from quite short distances - DCF39 often fades 20-30dB, also amateur stations over quite short distances such as PA, ON, and even the more distant UK stations like G3KEV. I had a QSO last night with PA3CPM, who faded from 569 to inaudible and back to 569 again over a period of about 10 minutes. The fact that daytime signal levels do vary significantly would seem to prove there must be some kind of ionospheric propagation during daylight - I imagine fading at moderate distances could be due to the interaction of ground wave and sky wave, as the MF broadcasters try so hard to avoid. Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU