Return-Path: Received: (qmail 17760 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2002 20:52:42 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2002 20:52:42 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 22772 invoked from network); 29 Mar 2002 20:52:49 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 29 Mar 2002 20:52:49 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16r4ph-0001lD-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:26:53 +0000 Received: from tomts17.bellnexxia.net ([209.226.175.71] helo=tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16r4pg-0001l8-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 22:26:53 +0000 Received: from server1.sympatico.ca ([216.208.85.192]) by tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net (InterMail vM.4.01.03.23 201-229-121-123-20010418) with ESMTP id <20020329204847.YCMZ27793.tomts17-srv.bellnexxia.net@server1.sympatico.ca> for ; Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:48:47 -0500 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020329152516.02d08bf0@POP2.sympatico.ca> X-Sender: b1aemm59@POP2.sympatico.ca X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Fri, 29 Mar 2002 15:35:19 -0500 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Larry Kayser" Subject: LF: loop resonant frequency In-reply-to: <3CA4B3CB.46478EC7@netscapeonline.co.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Tuning a large loop to resonance and measuring the loop inductance is easy without any instruments but a receiver and a calculator. Just couple to the loop with a toroid and put a silver mica bank of capacitors in series with the loop. Feed a receiver and tune for peak in the noise. Once you find a noise peak the standard resonance formula with the known capacitance will tell you the inductance of the loop. To check it out, and what I did here, was to setup a resonance on 138.83 and another on 135.922. The mathematics works very precisely down to less than 30 pf ambiguity, in my case just about half a kHz. The difference is a small plug in bunch of small value silver mica capacitors. Larry VA3LK I did not originate this, Bill, VE2IQ did many years ago.