Return-Path: Received: (qmail 11264 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 18:16:19 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO warrior.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.227) by excalibur-qfe1-smtp-plusnet.harl.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 18:16:19 -0000 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: (qmail 1718 invoked from network); 30 Jan 2002 16:51:57 -0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by warrior.services.quay.plus.net with SMTP; 30 Jan 2002 16:51:57 -0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VxgJ-0005sY-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:55 +0000 Received: from hestia.herts.ac.uk ([147.197.200.9]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #2) id 16VxgH-0005sT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:54 +0000 Received: from gemini ([147.197.200.44] helo=gemini.herts.ac.uk) by hestia.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.22 #1) id 16VxfR-0000OT-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:01 +0000 Received: from [147.197.232.252] (helo=rsch-15.herts.ac.uk) by gemini.herts.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 16VxfR-0001xj-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:33:01 +0000 Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.0.20020130160033.00a696c0@gemini.herts.ac.uk> X-Sender: mj9ar@gemini.herts.ac.uk X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Date: Wed, 30 Jan 2002 16:30:45 +0000 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "James Moritz" Subject: LF: Re: Frequency standards for LF. The next generation In-reply-to: <7D653C9C42F5D411A27C00508BF8803DCB9983@pdw-mail-r1.dstl.go v.uk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: Dear Andy, LF Group, Thanks for writing about this very interesting project - At 15:17 28/01/2002 +0000, you wrote: >The effect is to keep the VCXO precisely locked in the long term to the GPS >signal, although in the short term it's instantaneous phase is jittering, >and therefore the frequency is shifting by a Hz or two every second. By >apropriate choice of charge pump R/C values, the jitter can be minimised. >When this source is subsequently divided down to LF, the phase shift is >reduced by the division factor. What is the source of the jitter here - is it being introduced by the stabilisation circuit, or that due to the VCXO itself? Also, I can see that it would not matter much for long symbol lengths like Jason or you coherent PSK system, but would the jitter be a problem for something like WOLF, with it's 10 bits/s? Cheers, Jim Moritz 73 de M0BMU