Return-Path: Received: (qmail 5175 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 20:52:35 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO murphys-inbound.services.quay.plus.net) (212.159.14.225) by excalibur.plus.net with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 20:52:35 -0000 Received: (qmail 12108 invoked from network); 9 Aug 2001 20:52:09 -0000 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Received: from unknown (HELO post.thorcom.com) (212.172.148.70) by murphys with SMTP; 9 Aug 2001 20:52:09 -0000 X-Priority: 3 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15UwbE-0005I3-00 for rsgb_lf_group-outgoing@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:40:12 +0100 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Received: from k2.pncl.co.uk ([212.35.226.183]) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 3.16 #2) id 15UwbD-0005Hy-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:40:11 +0100 Received: from 233.pncl.co.uk (133.234.35.212.in-addr.arpa.ip-pool.cix.co.uk [212.35.234.133]) by k2.pncl.co.uk (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f79KdV823376 for ; Thu, 9 Aug 2001 21:39:31 +0100 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: <5.0.2.1.2.20010809190216.00a0cec0@mail.pncl.co.uk> X-Sender: blanch@mail.pncl.co.uk (Unverified) X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.0.2 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2001 21:16:52 +0100 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org From: "Walter Blanchard" Subject: LF: ZL tx MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group Sender: If you boys in ZL can't hear the German commercial monster Europe 1 on 183 kHz (2 megawatts erp) there doesn't seem much chance we'll hear you. All the integration in the world isn't going to recover 63 dB (assuming it's a reciprocal path of course). Working to VE7/W7 it is different - the approximately north/south darkness path for you means daylight in our half of the globe so Europe 1 shouldn't propagate around to VE7 and jam you although it's only half as far away. It has to go over the Polar Cap so add 20 db to the usual figures. And vice-versa. Until you hear DBF39 you won't hear us on 136. And even then we would have to make up about 37 dB. It might be a good idea if somebody in ZL could organise an automated watch on DBF for the next six months to see if anything is heard (seen?). Shouldn't be too hard to do with Argo, Speclab, or similar. Walter G3JKV.