Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dc04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 741B33800009E; Fri, 25 May 2012 12:54:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SXxky-0006B1-LZ for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 17:52:52 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SXxkx-0006As-VO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 17:52:51 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net ([165.212.64.31]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1SXxkv-0006wV-Cw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 25 May 2012 17:52:50 +0100 Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net (cmsout01-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout01.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 070452AD6C4 for ; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:52:45 +0000 (GMT) X-USANET-Received: from cmsout01.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by cmsout01.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.82F) with ESMTP id 919qeyq1r0320M01; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:52:43 -0000 X-USANET-Routed: 3 gwsout-vs Q:bmvirus Received: from imap01.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.1] by cmsout01.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.72B) with ESMTP id XID943qeyq1r7966X01; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:52:43 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.1 IN dibene@usa.net imap01.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID943qeyq1r7966X01 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.55.1.229] by imap01.cms.usa.net (ESMTPSA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.82G) with ESMTPSA id 304qeyq1Q8496M21; Fri, 25 May 2012 16:52:42 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.55.1.229 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4FBFB8D7.9020909@usa.net> Date: Fri, 25 May 2012 18:52:39 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120428 Thunderbird/12.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4FBE62F1.9020203@psk31.plus.com> <4FBE6D2A.6000907@usa.net> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4.1 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120525-0, 05/25/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID304qeyq1r8496X21 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: On 5/25/2012 12:16 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > I see where you're coming from, but there's probably more than me on > here who are just lurkers, and we'd be excluded because we don't post. ????? If you don't post, nothing bad will happen... nobody will prevent you from reading the messages on the group... Alan has already clearly explained this. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [165.212.64.31 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 2ee80849a5d572dbc974bb207a527753 Subject: Re: LF: An "LF-reflector" Yahoo group instead .....PLEASE Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000600000100090809060502" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:433367264:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40844fbfb93122d8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000600000100090809060502 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 5/25/2012 12:16 AM, Andy Smith wrote: > I see where you're coming from, but there's probably more than me on > here who are just lurkers, and we'd be excluded because we don't post. ????? If you don't post, nothing bad will happen... nobody will prevent you from reading the messages on the group... Alan has already clearly explained this. And if in your introductory message you are clear enough about your interest in LF, for example : "I want to join this group to learn how to build an LF loop" you will be accepted without being put into moderation. But, if your message says : "Cool group, please accept me" (and I receive from time to time such requests for my groups...) then my rule is to accept you, but you are put in moderation status. Only after a couple of legitimate messages from you showing interest and competence in LF the moderation is lifted. And for all those paranoid enough to refuse to have a Yahoo account, that want only to be able to read messages, without desire of posting, there is still another possibility. The group can be configured as half-open, meaning that you are required to be a member if you want to post, but everybody can read the messages, even without being logged on to Yahoo. The Blacksheep reflector was and is a valuable resource for the LF community, but the lack of a file deposit area, and the lack of the possibility of searching past messages to find if/when a given topic was discussed, are sorely missing.... 73 Alberto I2PHD --------------000600000100090809060502 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/25/2012 12:16 AM, Andy Smith wrote:
I see where you're coming from, but there's probably=
 more than me on
here who are just lurkers, and we'd be excluded because we don't post.
    
?????=A0=A0 If you don't post, nothing bad will happen... nobody will prevent you from reading
the messages on the group...=A0 Alan has already clearly explained this.

And if in your introductory message you are clear enough about your interest in LF, for example :

"I want to join this group to learn how to build an LF loop"

you will be accepted without being put into moderation.

But, if your message says :
"Cool group, please accept me" =A0=A0 (and I receive from time to t= ime such requests for my groups...)

then my rule is to accept you, but you are put in moderation status.=A0 Only after a couple of
legitimate messages from you showing interest and competence in LF the moderation is lifted.

And for all those paranoid enough to refuse to have a Yahoo account, that want only
to be able to read messages, without desire of posting, there is still another possibility.

The group can be configured as half-open, meaning that you are required to be a member
if you want to post, but everybody can read the messages, even without being logged
on to Yahoo.

The Blacksheep reflector was and is a valuable resource for the LF community, but
the lack of a file deposit area, and the lack of the possibility of searching past messages
to find if/when a given topic was discussed, are sorely missing....

73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD

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