Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id E73C13800008A; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 11:03:50 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SDdM0-0005XN-HI for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:03:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SDdLz-0005X8-Pb for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:03:03 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net ([165.212.64.32]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SDdLw-00011s-GD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 16:03:03 +0100 Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net (co02-lo [127.0.0.1]) by cmsout02.mbox.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1839E1344F4 for ; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:02:53 +0000 (GMT) X-USANET-Received: from cmsout02.mbox.net [127.0.0.1] by cmsout02.mbox.net via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.82F) with ESMTP id 481qcdPcW3264M02; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:02:48 -0000 X-USANET-Routed: 3 gwsout-vs Q:bmvirus Received: from cmsapps04.cms.usa.net [165.212.11.133] by cmsout02.mbox.net via smtad (C8.MAIN.3.72B) with ESMTP id XID485qcdPcW6428X02; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:02:48 -0000 X-USANET-Source: 165.212.11.133 IN dibene@usa.net cmsapps04.cms.usa.net X-USANET-MsgId: XID485qcdPcW6428X02 Received: from [127.0.0.1] [151.55.26.20] by cmsapps04.cms.usa.net (ESMTPSA/dibene@usa.net) via mtad (C8.MAIN.3.82F) with ESMTPSA id 794qcdPcW1968M40; Fri, 30 Mar 2012 15:02:48 -0000 X-USANET-Auth: 151.55.26.20 AUTH dibene@usa.net [127.0.0.1] Message-ID: <4F75CB15.4090105@usa.net> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2012 17:02:45 +0200 From: Alberto di Bene User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8CEDBB08CDC93E9-6B0-1108@webmail-m065.sysops.aol.com> <4F74A485.8010904@freenet.de> <4F7546E0.3080900@telia.com> In-Reply-To: <4F7546E0.3080900@telia.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 120330-0, 03/30/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean Z-USANET-MsgId: XID794qcdPcW1968X40 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Dream sampler Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080009020200040808070309" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:418467744:93952408 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084f75cb5678df X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080009020200040808070309 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/30/2012 7:38 AM, Johan H. Bodin wrote: > I am thinking about a front end using something like your old I/Q sampling PIC > with a preamp and a BPF. Fs should be close to 4*9=36kHz for near-DC IF but not > too close in order to avoid 1/f noise from the preamp. If the sampling MCU is > clocked with a precision frequency and connected to a simple serial port, we > could say goodbye to soundcard jitter and jumps and other unexplainable > phenomena! Not a "soundCard" really, but a "dreamCard"... Hi Johan, may I suggest you to give a look at the dsPIC from Microchip ? It has a 12-bit ADC and a couple of DACs on board, together with an instruction set rich of instructions tailored to DSP processing, like MAC, ring buffer support, etc. etc. I used it for an SSB generator, using a modified Weaver method, and found it perfectly adequate for this kind of tasks. I bet that with a single dsPIC chip, you can digitize the 8.9 kHz band signals, process them and playback them through the DACs, no PC whatsoever needed.... 73 Alberto I2PHD --------------080009020200040808070309 Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 3/30/2012 7:38 AM, Johan H. Bodin wrote:
I am thinking about a front end using something like=
 your old I/Q sampling PIC
with a preamp and a BPF. Fs should be close to 4*9=3D36kHz for near-DC IF=
 but not
too close in order to avoid 1/f noise from the preamp. If the sampling MC=
U is
clocked with a precision frequency and connected to a simple serial port,=
 we
could say goodbye to soundcard jitter and jumps and other unexplainable
phenomena! Not a "soundCard" really, but a "dreamCard"...
Hi Johan,

=A0=A0 may I suggest you to give a look at the dsPIC from Microchip= ?
It has a 12-bit ADC and a couple of DACs on board, together with an instruction set rich of
instructions tailored to DSP processing, like MAC, ring buffer support, etc. etc.

I used it for an SSB generator, using a modified Weaver method, and found it perfectly
adequate for this kind of tasks.=A0 I bet that with a single dsPIC chip, you can digitize
the 8.9 kHz band signals, process them and playback them through the DACs, no PC
whatsoever needed....

73=A0 Alberto=A0 I2PHD

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