Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 45F41380000AE; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 03:34:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1SC4RZ-0005sf-Gu for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:34:21 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1SC4RY-0005sV-Og for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:34:20 +0100 Received: from out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.238]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1SC4RW-0004Rq-KF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:34:20 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AvkBAOMacE8CZM3D/2dsb2JhbAANN6ZWlGkBAQEBAgFnEQYLCwkIBAEBAQkWCAcJAwIBAgE0CQgTBgIBAYgBELgyiXGHNwSOAYhwjxyCaA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.75,319,1330905600"; d="scan'208,217";a="389037398" Received: from host-2-100-205-195.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([2.100.205.195]) by out1.ip02ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 26 Mar 2012 08:34:08 +0100 Message-ID: <4F701BED.7080201@talktalk.net> Date: Mon, 26 Mar 2012 08:34:05 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312 Thunderbird/11.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8CED1D568912879-1568-4B17@angweb-usd004.sysops.aol.com> <5BBB1EB8BEC445D6A33CE2E0CF6D7620@White> In-Reply-To: <5BBB1EB8BEC445D6A33CE2E0CF6D7620@White> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: VLF: OK2BVG - DF6NM QSO on 8.97 kHz Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------020906050107030301050702" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:445495168:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60da4f701c231204 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------020906050107030301050702 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcus / Lubos Congratulations on the QSO, out of interest I will examine the time period to see if I have any trace on my Grabber. I am sure you won't mind if I copy your post to the Sub9kHz Group. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 26/03/2012 01:33, Markus Vester wrote: > Today between 7:30 and 14:00, Lubos OK2BVG and I successfully > completed a two-way contact on 8.97 kHz. We believe that this is the > first international QSO ever on VLF. > The distance between Breclav (JN88KS) and Nuernberg (JN59NJ 69es) is > approximately 424 km. The weekend before, Lubos and I had found that > we could see each other's VLF transmissions from our small home > antennas in a slow spectrogram, using about 0.45 millihertz FFT > resolution ("DFCW-6000"). This long integration requires about 2000 > seconds of continuous non-interrupted carrier to reach full sensitivity. > We decided to use absolute frequency encoding of characters ("MFSK-37" > mode), which has a simple structure but is significantly more > efficient than two-frequency DFCW. The software signal generators in > SpecLab were used to create 30 minute dashes by editing the frequency > in 1 mHz steps every half hour. This can be automated by opening a > textfile which is read by the "periodic actions" function. Between > transmissions, additional half-hour gaps were inserted to let the FFT > ring down, and allow for TX-RX reconnections. > Characters are identified by reading the frequencies above 8970.000 > Hz, with 8970.000 to .009 assigned to the numbers, .010 idle or space, > and .011 to .036 the letters A-Z. Lubos used a Rubidium standard to > lock his transmit samplerate, while both receivers and my TX were > synchronized by military MSK signals from GQD (22.1 kHz) and DHO (23.4 > kHz). > With about 80 watts from an audio amplifier, I could get up to 0.38 A > antenna current into my top-loaded vertical 9 m above the roof, > radiating on the order of 10 to 15 microwatts. I believe that Lubos is > using similar equipment, perhaps a couple of dB stronger. For > receive, my soundcard was connected straight to the loading coil and > antenna, whereas Lubos has an active probe at a quiet site remote > from his TX location. > We wanted to go for a "full QSO" format with reports and > confirmations, beyond the rudimentary three-dash "micro-QSO" format > which was used in June 2009 between DJ2LF and myself. With > single-letter suffixes, we ended up proceeding as follows: > 07:30-08:30 "NB" ;Lubos' call: df6Nm de ok2Bvg > 09:00-10:30 "BNM" ;my reply and report: Bvg Nm M > 11:00-12:00 "RO" ;his confirmation and report > 12:30-14:00 "RTU" ;my confirmation and thank you > Although today the noise was not as low as it had been before, we > managed to exchange the essential information in 5.5 hours until 13 > UT, after which QRN from lightning in southeast Europe became strong > enough to obliterate further copy. > Attached image contains captures from Lubos' grabber at Apollons > temple (top) and my receiver (bottom), with screenshots from the DK7FC > and OE3GHB grabbers pasted inbetween. The original captures are at > http://df6nm.bplaced.net/VLF/ok2bvg_df6nm_120325/ > All spectrograms were stretched to the same timescale (5 min/pixel). > On the left hand side, you can see a MFSK pre-test from Lubos, sending > his call to hs own grabber at very low power. There was also a long > dash from OE3GHB on 8970.030, and a carrier from DJ8WX on 8970.022 is > visible at DK7FC. > The rightmost part of the captures shows the essential eight dashes > from our QSO. You can see that I had almost lost Lubos' "B" when my > noise blanker triggered heavily on local QRM, inducing me to give an > "M" rather than "O" report. But hovering the cursor to 8:15 UT does > show the peak at 8970.012 Hz in the spectrum graph. My final "R" is > just barely visible at .028, whereas the following "TU" at .030 and > .031 ended up drowning in the increasing noise. > During the lowest noise period (9 - 12 UT), the dashes were visible > (though not decodable) in 4.5 mHz "600" spectrograms. At that time, > our symbols also appeared on Paul Nicholson's spectrogram > http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1332712800&b=110&s=sp > > Thanks again to Lubos for the effort and patience! Although > exchanging half-hour symbols is tedious and may sound boring to some, > both of us enjoyed it and actually found it quite exciting. > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > *From:* Markus Vester > *Sent:* Friday, March 16, 2012 11:46 PM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* VLF: MFSK-37 tests above 8970 today > > To explore the possibility of further two-way VLF contacts from my > home antenna, I have conducted a test in MFSK-37 mode this morning. I > was hoping to reach 0.42 mHz ("6000") grabbers using UT-synchronized > half-hour dashes. Similar to an earlier kite experiment, I > used absolute frequency encoding of characters in 1 mHz steps (0 = > 8970.000, 1 = 8970.001, ... 9 = 8970.009, idle = 8970.010, A = > 8970.011, .. Z = 8970.036 Hz). > The plan was to transmit my complete callsign in 2.5 hours between > 8:00 and 10:30. Unfortunately DHO locking failed during the first two > characters, which came out some 9 mHz low. Attached image shows what > was actually sent according to my "monitor", which is a high harmonic > of the transmitted VLF signal accidentally aliased into the LF TA window. > I was pleased to find all the dashes showing up clearly as bright dots > on the OK2BVG "6000" grabber, and even left visible traces in his > "600" window. As I had also received Lubos' transmission last weekend > with a good margin in 0.48 mHz, a two-way QSO between us would > probably be feasible within a few hours. > Paul Nicholson's 0.278 mHz super-sensitive spectrogram also shows the > transmission at 120 degrees azimuth, even though the dashes were > really too short to reach full SNR in this bandwidth. > Results on the DK7C grabber were not quite as good, with only a single > clear dot on .006 Hz. This may partly have been due to the previously > experienced daytime minimum at our distance (180 km). Nothing > distictive was visible at OE3GHB, who is at similar distance as > OK2BVG, but seems to have suffered from a bit of local QRM at the time. > Again we find that a great deal is possible with very modest means... > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) --------------020906050107030301050702 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Marcus / Lubos

Congratulations on the QSO, out of interest I will examine the time period to see if I have any trace on my Grabber.

I am sure you won't mind if I copy your post to the Sub9kHz Group.

73 Eddie G3ZJO

On 26/03/2012 01:33, Markus Vester wrote:
Today between 7:30 and 14:00, Lubos OK2BVG and I successfully completed a two-way contact on 8.97 kHz. We believe that this is the first international QSO ever on VLF.
 
The distance between Breclav (JN88KS) and Nuernberg (JN59NJ 69es) is approximately 424 km. The weekend before, Lubos and I had found that we could see each other's VLF transmissions from our small home antennas in a slow spectrogram, using about 0.45 millihertz FFT resolution ("DFCW-6000"). This long integration requires about 2000 seconds of continuous non-interrupted carrier to reach full sensitivity. 
 
We decided to use absolute frequency encoding of characters ("MFSK-37" mode), which has a simple structure but is significantly more efficient than two-frequency DFCW. The software signal generators in SpecLab were used to create 30 minute dashes by editing the frequency in 1 mHz steps every half hour. This can be automated by opening a textfile which is read by the "periodic actions" function. Between transmissions, additional half-hour gaps were inserted to let the FFT ring down, and allow for TX-RX reconnections.
 
Characters are identified by reading the frequencies above 8970.000 Hz, with 8970.000 to .009 assigned to the numbers, .010 idle or space, and .011 to .036 the letters A-Z. Lubos used a Rubidium standard to lock his transmit samplerate, while both receivers and my TX were synchronized by military MSK signals from GQD (22.1 kHz) and DHO (23.4 kHz).
 
With about 80 watts from an audio amplifier, I could get up to 0.38 A antenna current into my top-loaded vertical 9 m above the roof, radiating on the order of 10 to 15 microwatts. I believe that Lubos is using similar equipment, perhaps a couple of dB stronger. For receive, my soundcard was connected straight to the loading coil and antenna, whereas Lubos has an active probe at a quiet site remote from his TX location.
 
We wanted to go for a "full QSO" format with reports and confirmations, beyond the rudimentary three-dash "micro-QSO" format which was used in June 2009 between DJ2LF and myself. With single-letter suffixes, we ended up proceeding as follows:
 
07:30-08:30 "NB"     ;Lubos' call: df6Nm de ok2Bvg
09:00-10:30 "BNM"  ;my reply and report: Bvg Nm M  
11:00-12:00 "RO"     ;his confirmation and report
12:30-14:00 "RTU"  ;my confirmation and thank you
 
Although today the noise was not as low as it had been before, we managed to exchange the essential information in 5.5 hours until 13 UT, after which QRN from lightning in southeast Europe became strong enough to obliterate further copy.
 
Attached image contains captures from Lubos' grabber at Apollons temple (top) and my receiver (bottom), with screenshots from the DK7FC and OE3GHB grabbers pasted inbetween. The original captures are at
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/VLF/ok2bvg_df6nm_120325/
All spectrograms were stretched to the same timescale (5 min/pixel). On the left hand side, you can see a MFSK pre-test from Lubos, sending his call to hs own grabber at very low power. There was also a long dash from OE3GHB on 8970.030, and a carrier from DJ8WX on 8970.022 is visible at DK7FC.
 
The rightmost part of the captures shows the essential eight dashes from our QSO. You can see that I had almost lost  Lubos' "B" when my noise blanker triggered heavily on local QRM, inducing me to give an "M" rather than "O" report. But hovering the cursor to 8:15 UT does show the peak at 8970.012 Hz in the spectrum graph. My final "R" is just barely visible at .028, whereas the following "TU" at .030 and .031 ended up drowning in the increasing noise.
 
During the lowest noise period (9 - 12 UT), the dashes were visible (though not decodable) in 4.5 mHz "600" spectrograms. At that time, our symbols also appeared on Paul Nicholson's spectrogram
http://abelian.org/vlf/fbins.shtml#p=1332712800&b=110&s=sp
 
Thanks again to Lubos for the effort and patience!  Although exchanging half-hour symbols is tedious and may sound boring to some, both of us enjoyed it and actually found it quite exciting.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Friday, March 16, 2012 11:46 PM
Subject: VLF: MFSK-37 tests above 8970 today

To explore the possibility of further two-way VLF contacts from my home antenna, I have conducted a test in MFSK-37 mode this morning. I was hoping to reach 0.42 mHz ("6000") grabbers using UT-synchronized half-hour dashes. Similar to an earlier kite experiment, I used absolute frequency encoding of characters in 1 mHz steps (0 = 8970.000, 1 = 8970.001, ... 9 = 8970.009, idle = 8970.010, A = 8970.011, .. Z = 8970.036 Hz).
 
The plan was to transmit my complete callsign in 2.5 hours between 8:00 and 10:30. Unfortunately DHO locking failed during the first two characters, which came out some 9 mHz low. Attached image shows what was actually sent according to my "monitor", which is a high harmonic of the transmitted VLF signal accidentally aliased into the LF TA window.
 
I was pleased to find all the dashes showing up clearly as bright dots on the OK2BVG "6000" grabber, and even left visible traces in his "600" window. As I had also received Lubos' transmission last weekend with a good margin in 0.48 mHz, a two-way QSO between us would probably be feasible within a few hours.
 
Paul Nicholson's 0.278 mHz super-sensitive spectrogram also shows the transmission at 120 degrees azimuth, even though the dashes were really too short to reach full SNR in this bandwidth.
 
Results on the DK7C grabber were not quite as good, with only a single clear dot on .006 Hz. This may partly have been due to the previously experienced daytime minimum at our distance (180 km). Nothing distictive was visible at OE3GHB, who is at similar distance as OK2BVG, but seems to have suffered from a bit of local QRM at the time. 
 
Again we find that a great deal is possible with very modest means...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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