Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D5876380000A5; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:32:52 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Rpse1-0000tv-Qr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:31:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Rpse1-0000tm-6g for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:31:29 +0000 Received: from mta11.charter.net ([216.33.127.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Rpsdy-0003E2-Qy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 25 Jan 2012 02:31:29 +0000 Received: from imp11 ([10.20.200.11]) by mta11.charter.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.02 201-2260-151-103-20110920) with ESMTP id <20120125023119.DXIX4059.mta11.charter.net@imp11> for ; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:31:19 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([66.168.113.95]) by imp11 with smtp.charter.net id ReX81i00123ZM9N05eXFCK; Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:31:19 -0500 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=rvNqJbVGdbt4egs52VbhtoJZG7AoPDG9H2iogr/sNfs= c=1 sm=1 a=FFsdPcU1_MIA:10 a=012vdTlNVPIA:10 a=yUnIBFQkZM0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=FjY2qd//A8RiYNphvvKDfg==:17 a=QejfARXMAAAA:8 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=DOkaMEdIzrU_oR0jazoA:9 a=Cgha9VrwXlpP5xvUJhwA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=FjY2qd//A8RiYNphvvKDfg==:117 Message-ID: <4F1F695F.7020400@charter.net> Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2012 21:30:55 -0500 From: John Andrews User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:9.0) Gecko/20111222 Thunderbird/9.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <3992CC59F7A14AA694628529761EC5DE@AGB> In-Reply-To: <3992CC59F7A14AA694628529761EC5DE@AGB> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: WOLF DATA MODE S/N FIG ? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:357183360:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40594f1f69d40c34 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Graham, There is no single s/n figure or specified BW in which to measure it. WOLF works by building copy up over a period of time, and assuming good frequency/phase stability, a half hour or more is practical. The data rate is fairly fast, 10 b/s, with a 960 bit message, so that a complete frame of data is sent in 96 seconds. You get three quick reports in the first 96 seconds, and then decodes every 96 seconds after. Each message is 15 characters, with no rules about callsign format. Tests done some years ago show it roughly equivalent to QRSS60 in terms of signal level. It does give some clues as to whether a signal has been locked-in, and has the possibility of partial copy, unlike some "all or nothing" modes. Fifteen characters in a half-hour is of course much faster than QRSS60 would permit. 2-way QSO's are fairly easy with some advance agreement on what to do with the 15 characters. The downsides are the need for a linear transmitter system (as this is PSK), receiver/transmitter stability and frequency accuracy. It works at 600 meters, but is fairly useless at 160 meters and up. The newest version is by DL4YHF, and may be found at: http://www.qsl.net/d/dl4yhf//wolf/ . Note that this version has 5 b/s and 20 b/s variations. Testing has shown that the program tends to provide copy in the same amount of time, so there's no overriding advantage to either. John, W1TAG On 1/24/2012 7:27 PM, Graham wrote: > WOLF DATA MODE S/N FIG ? > Long time since I used wolf , anyone have the > expected decode min s/n level ? > and now what s/n was ref to , as changes > may of taken place over time > Tnx -G. > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.454 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/4162 - Release Date: 01/23/12 19:34:00 >