Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 911FD380000A0; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 14:44:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QzvBs-0002aT-8B for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:43:40 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QzvBr-0002aK-Iq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:43:39 +0100 Received: from outbound04.telus.net ([199.185.220.223] helo=defout.telus.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QzvBp-0000rO-Fy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:43:39 +0100 Received: from edtncm02 ([199.185.220.224]) by priv-edtnes24.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20110903184334.MUJU16943.priv-edtnes24.telusplanet.net@edtncm02> for ; Sat, 3 Sep 2011 12:43:34 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.115] ([75.157.144.89]) by edtncm02 with bizsmtp id UJja1h00G1vwihF01Jjad4; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 12:43:34 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=MSOtCQqPQhsDs0L0Db/i6jCHAE7kn0rwYOJhFnVr9Q8= c=1 sm=2 a=COEX_A24GAwA:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=1rfP5u51hhQ4enoQ93QA:9 a=PPLRHCQhHiJkENfXfGAA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=fvCJTSrxny3yn7es:21 a=YUkQS3zQk-Sssz4R:21 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 75.157.144.89 Message-ID: <4E627556.4010200@telus.net> Date: Sat, 03 Sep 2011 11:43:34 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4E61083A.5040500@telus.net> <4E61A2B0.1030708@telus.net> <001501cc6a0f$553b11d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001501cc6a0f$553b11d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 detected Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.9 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:477781600:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d41184e62759916f3 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Mal I notice you didn't say impossible! 500KHz is a dead duck in Canada. The bureaucrats at RAC and IC have completely screwed up the implementation of the initiative for experimental testing. I've abandoned any plans to operate on that band as a result. Assuming that we someday get the band as an amateur allocation we should try. But until that day comes and assuming both you and I are still alive I'll focus my efforts on 137. 160m stations are common on the coast here. Many are well equipped as are the W7s to the south of us. I think the lack of amateur success so far on the 137 EU/VE7 path is largely due to a lack of serious effort by well equipped stations. Peaks in DCF39 have occured in the passed that lead me to believe it may be possible to detect amateur signals on 137. Only a concerted and focus experiential will prove or disprove this as the path is so wildly variable. With respect to other stations in VE7 on 137: VE7SL, Steve - 100' vertical on the ocean with a shiny new TIL KW amp he completed this summer. He's a 'contender'. VE7BDQ, John - has a smallish vertical on suburban lot. Not lots of ERP but he has proven to have very good ears when compared to my grabber and VE7SL's capabilities. VA7JX, Jack - Sub-urban low vertical, Jack has good ears but is still working on improving ERP. 73 Scott On 9/3/2011 12:58 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > Scott > Being realistic it would need a miracle to propagate a signal into VE7 from > the UK on 137 Khz using 1W erp, however with 10W erp on 500 Khz it is > probable, going on past experience on 1800 Khz (160 metres), even then its > rare to work VE7, W6, W7 and KL7 but strangely JA, VK and ZL seem to pop up > more frequently at greater distances. It might be a question of operator > availability in VE7 on the lower frequencies.also suitable power and > antennas to cover the distance to EU. > You seem to be suitably equipped but what about the others. > 73 de mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Scott Tilley" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 4:44 AM > Subject: Re: LF: DCF39 detected > > >> DCF39 coming up again. >> >> Stefan, here's your cue! We all know Mal won't try :-) >> >> SCHNELL! >> >> 73 Scott >> >> >> On 9/2/2011 9:45 AM, Scott Tilley wrote: >>> Hi All >>> >>> DCF39 was detected for the first time this side of summer in VE7 >>> overnight. >>> >>> The DX season has officially begun. >>> >>> 73 Scott >>> VE7TIL CN89dk >>> http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > >