Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dk04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D825C38000087; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 23:58:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QzhMq-0003Bx-5d for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:58:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QzhMp-0003Bo-EC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:58:03 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([199.185.220.80]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QzhMo-0001jh-4S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 03 Sep 2011 04:58:03 +0100 Received: from edtncm03 ([199.185.220.221]) by priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20110903035759.BCHP12381.priv-edtnes28.telusplanet.net@edtncm03> for ; Fri, 2 Sep 2011 21:57:59 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.115] ([75.157.144.89]) by edtncm03 with bizsmtp id U3xz1h00E1vwihF013xzg9; Fri, 02 Sep 2011 21:57:59 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=/2vhMcYt0N0VvchKHup6c1GIdC2S9yfMKhJTaah3RYM= c=1 sm=2 a=COEX_A24GAwA:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=aatUQebYAAAA:8 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=UnOzo9zrdJu1AdHPl1kA:9 a=4dIz7O4URHJgUp-afBUA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=rBKJJ2Jc0C4A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=-LCUGObC0vGclCEwUikA:9 a=hk9Z648WIs50WIm169oA:7 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 75.157.144.89 Message-ID: <4E61A5C7.5050105@telus.net> Date: Fri, 02 Sep 2011 20:57:59 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:6.0.1) Gecko/20110830 Thunderbird/6.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001201cc6943$47f18e40$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4E608A57.7080400@telus.net> <008e01cc6994$8c75fa00$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4E616B56.1030300@telus.net> <001701cc69cd$ac734770$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001701cc69cd$ac734770$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: 1.7 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR=0.276,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: ROS Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------070508040300080806040202" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.4 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,MAILTO_TO_SPAM_ADDR autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:422786144:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db4084e61a5fd3b5b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------070508040300080806040202 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal Your observations are consistent with the data I've collected over the past few years. Fact is EU is the hardest path for VE7 on any band. It's the competition that makes it interesting and there's some on this side of the path too! I hope you and others take this up as it would certainly make 137 more interesting as winter approaches. All jabs aside, I think this will be a very difficult path that will take a lot of out of the box thinking on 137, I personally have no interest in 500KHz due to politics on this side. 137 is the only challenge that matters here! You have my commitment to ensure a viable RX station is here collecting data 24/7. Once I see EU at amateur power levels I'll orientate a huge loop towards EU and pump up the volume...! Verticals just don't work in a forest of 150' trees, but I have been working on a maritime mobile station to launch a vertical from a local islet about a km off the coast in the middle of the salt chunk... Surely a vertical wet dream! Over to you............................... GL! Scott On 9/2/2011 5:08 PM, mal hamilton wrote: > Scott > I will give it some thought. I have worked VE7 es W6/W7 es KL7 > stations on 160metres CW over the years during the winter months. > so like you say it is likely that it can be done on 500 and possibly 137. > If someone else beats me to the post so be it !! > On 160 metres the optimum time was coming up to my sunrise. I have > also worked on CW ZL es KH6 plus others in the past. > My 160 antenna is 3/8 wave inv L up over 100 ft vertical and my 600 > metre antenna is 1/4 wave at the same height. > 73 de mal/g3kev > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Scott Tilley > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:48 AM > *Subject:* Re: LF: ROS > > Mal when are you planning to test the path from G3 to VE7? Surely > you're not going to allow someone else to do it first :-) > > We await the viability of the path to be demonstrated at amateur > power levels. > > As DCF39 becomes VERY audible at times (typically best in Nov) it > is possible that an amateur QRSS/DFCW signal could make it over > here... > > GL > Scott > VE7TIL CN89dk > http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/ > > > On 9/2/2011 10:20 AM, mal hamilton wrote: >> You have just verified what I have always said. >> Yes keep an open mind and experiment but in the end all will come >> to the same conclusion as Yourself. >> QRSS/DFCW. >> Over the years I have had a multitude of private emails saying >> the same thing. We are not alone !! >> de g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Scott Tilley >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Friday, September 02, 2011 8:48 AM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: ROS >> >> On 9/2/2011 12:38 AM, mal hamilton wrote: >>> While it is interesting to experiment with different modes >> Mal is this really you? >> >> I agree with you on the QRSS/DFCW comment! >> >> > --------------070508040300080806040202 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Mal

Your observations are consistent with the data I've collected over the past few years.   Fact is EU is the hardest path for VE7 on any band.

It's the competition that makes it interesting and there's some on this side of the path too!  I hope you and others take this up as it would certainly make 137 more interesting as winter approaches.

All jabs aside, I think this will be a very difficult path that will take a lot of out of the box thinking on 137, I personally have no interest in 500KHz due to politics on this side.  137 is the only challenge that matters here!

You have my commitment to ensure a viable RX station is here collecting data 24/7.  Once I see EU at amateur power levels I'll orientate a huge loop towards EU and pump up the volume...!  Verticals just don't work in a forest of 150' trees, but I have been working on a maritime mobile station to launch a vertical from a local islet about  a km off the coast in the middle of the salt chunk... Surely a vertical wet dream!

Over to you...............................

GL!

Scott






On 9/2/2011 5:08 PM, mal hamilton wrote:
Scott
I will give it some thought. I have worked VE7 es W6/W7 es KL7 stations on 160metres CW over the years during the winter months.
so like you say it is likely that it can be done on 500 and possibly 137.
If someone else beats me to the post so be it !!
On 160 metres the optimum time was coming up to my sunrise. I have also worked on CW  ZL es KH6 plus others in the past.
My 160 antenna is 3/8 wave inv L up over 100 ft vertical and my 600 metre antenna is 1/4 wave at the same height.
73 de mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 12:48 AM
Subject: Re: LF: ROS

Mal when are you planning to test the path from G3 to VE7?  Surely you're not going to allow someone else to do it first :-)

We await the viability of the path to be demonstrated at amateur power levels. 

As DCF39 becomes VERY audible at times (typically best in Nov) it is possible that an amateur QRSS/DFCW signal could make it over here...

GL
Scott
VE7TIL CN89dk
http://www3.telus.net/sthed/argo/


On 9/2/2011 10:20 AM, mal hamilton wrote:
You have just verified what I have always said.
Yes keep an open mind and experiment but in the end all will come to the same conclusion as Yourself.
QRSS/DFCW.
Over the years I have had a multitude of private emails saying the same thing. We are not alone !!
de g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 8:48 AM
Subject: Re: LF: ROS

On 9/2/2011 12:38 AM, mal hamilton wrote:
While it is interesting to experiment with different modes
Mal is this really you?

I agree with you on the QRSS/DFCW comment!




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