Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.141]) by air-me04.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINME042-8bad4ddbe8f920b; Tue, 24 May 2011 13:20:57 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0724338000093; Tue, 24 May 2011 13:20:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QOvGs-0002rm-4D for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 18:19:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QOvGr-0002rd-Ig for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 18:19:53 +0100 Received: from out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.245]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QOvGo-0000gW-P5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 24 May 2011 18:19:53 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AmIAAM7n200CZMrG/2dsb2JhbAAMl1nZJIYbBIIykj6KMQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.65,262,1304290800"; d="scan'208,217";a="478672161" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([2.100.202.198]) by out1.ip09ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 24 May 2011 18:19:44 +0100 Message-ID: <4DDBE8AE.9060406@talktalk.net> Date: Tue, 24 May 2011 18:19:42 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <44EC48C103E94C22B66819D342CB4A1B@ns94d01ae4d850> <4DDBB4E0.1080509@dsl.pipex.com> <4DDBC695.5090303@talktalk.net> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010008040805050604060704" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d408d4ddbe8f542f7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010008040805050604060704 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Henny Do you see shifts other than these. 80.8 = Tone 01 - Space 81.0 = Tone 02 81.2 = Tone 03 81.4 = Tone 04 81.6 = Tone 05 81.8 = Tone 06 82.0 = Tone 07 - Idle 82.2 = Tone 08 82.4 = Tone 09 82.6 = Tone 10 82.8 = Tone 11 83.0 = Tone 12 This is the way I label the system Chris and I can swap message data easily using this your message was 9,11,12 Space 9,11,12. All tones are high. Above the Idle tone. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 24/05/2011 17:53, henny van elst wrote: > Hi Eddie,Chris, > the high tones,that is what I means with the wrong shift, > henny pa3cpm > 73's > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* qrss > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:54 PM > *Subject:* Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg > > Hi Chris/Henny/LF > > I shall never get started on the job I wanted to do today so I > have re-joined the ZEVS monitors. > > The inter sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd > due to the message using all high tones like the one today. These > occurrences are not unknown but rare-er. > > Just a thought the Alpha beacons are off again, maybe a little > more comms is necessary. Without going into my theory of > navigation beacon denial, oh I have said it. If they can turn the > navigation off for long periods lately and carry on without them, > why do they bother to use them at all. > > Oh got it, maybe they have the Captains XYL on board and she is > doing the navigating. > > 73 Eddie G3ZJO > > > On 24/05/2011 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote: >> Hi Henny - the time is certainly different but the format looks >> the same to me: 82 Hz for four minutes to start, followed by >> three 4 minute tones of 82.4, 82.8 and 83. These three 'message' >> tones are then always (for recent transmissions) followed by 4 >> minutes at 80.8 - then the three tones are repeated and the >> signal goes back to 82 Hz for an hour. >> >> Eddie G3ZJO has identified that signals seem to made up from 12 >> tones from 80.8 to 83.0 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the first and >> last is always 82Hz and the mid-tone is always 80.8. The three >> 'message' tones are repeated. >> >> Will be interesting to see if the 1700UTC transmission is still >> on schedule. >> >> 73 Chris G3WCD >> >> >> On 24/05/2011 14:08, henny van elst wrote: >>> Hi LF, >>> Zevs transmitting on a strange time,and the shift is strange too, >>> henny pa3cpm >>> 73's >>> Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen >>> worden verzonden: >>> Zevs 24-05.jpg >>> >>> Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen >>> virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde >>> bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de >>> beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe >>> bijlagen worden afgehandeld. >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht. > Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com > Versie: 10.0.1321 / Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte: > 05/23/11 > --------------010008040805050604060704 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Henny

Do you see shifts other than these.
 

80.8 =  Tone 01 - Space
81.0 =  Tone 02
81.2 =  Tone 03
81.4 =  Tone 04
81.6 =  Tone 05
81.8 =  Tone 06
82.0 =  Tone 07 - Idle
82.2 =  Tone 08
82.4 =  Tone 09
82.6 =  Tone 10
82.8 =  Tone 11
83.0 =  Tone 12

This is the way I label the system Chris and I can swap message data easily using this your message was 9,11,12 Space 9,11,12. All tones are high. Above the Idle tone.

73 Eddie G3ZJO

On 24/05/2011 17:53, henny van elst wrote:
Hi Eddie,Chris,
the high tones,that is what  I means with the wrong shift,
henny pa3cpm
73's
----- Original Message -----
From: qrss
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 4:54 PM
Subject: Re: LF: wrong time Zevs 24-05.jpg

Hi Chris/Henny/LF

I shall never get started on the job I wanted to do today so I have re-joined the ZEVS monitors.

The inter sked transmission I saw yesterday may have looked odd due to the message using all high tones like the one today. These occurrences are not unknown but rare-er.

Just a thought the Alpha beacons are off again, maybe a little more comms is necessary. Without going into my theory of navigation beacon denial, oh I have said it. If they can turn the navigation off for long periods lately and carry on without them, why do they bother to use them at all.

Oh got it, maybe they have the Captains XYL on board and she is doing the navigating.

73 Eddie G3ZJO 


On 24/05/2011 14:38, Chris Dillon wrote:
Hi Henny - the time is certainly different but the format looks the same to me: 82 Hz for four minutes to start, followed by three 4 minute tones of 82.4, 82.8 and 83. These three 'message' tones are then always (for recent transmissions) followed by 4 minutes at 80.8 - then the three tones are repeated and the signal goes back to 82 Hz for an hour.

Eddie G3ZJO has identified that signals seem to made up from 12 tones from 80.8 to 83.0 at 0.2 Hz intervals, where the first and last is always 82Hz and the mid-tone is always 80.8. The three 'message' tones are repeated.

Will be interesting to see if the 1700UTC transmission is still on schedule.

73 Chris G3WCD 


On 24/05/2011 14:08, henny van elst wrote:
Hi LF,
Zevs transmitting on a strange time,and the shift is strange too,
henny pa3cpm
73's
Het bericht kan nu met het volgende bijlagen of koppelingen worden verzonden:
Zevs 24-05.jpg

Opmerking: Sommige e-mailprogramma's staan ter beveiliging tegen virussen het verzenden of ontvangen van bepaalde bestandsbijlagen niet toe. Controleer de beveiligingsinstellingen voor uw e-mail als u wilt weten hoe bijlagen worden afgehandeld.


Geen virus gevonden in dit bericht.
Gecontroleerd door AVG - www.avg.com
Versie: 10.0.1321 / Virusdatabase: 1509/3656 - datum van uitgifte: 05/23/11


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