Return-Path: <owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Received: from mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.73]) by air-db09.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDB092-86234dc7aa0329c; Mon, 09 May 2011 04:46:59 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id A0B52380000D0; Mon, 9 May 2011 04:46:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QJM5r-0003zi-K5 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 09:45:31 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QJM5r-0003zZ-2p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 09:45:31 +0100 Received: from out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.244]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from <qrss@talktalk.net>) id 1QJM5o-0003Nv-To for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 09 May 2011 09:45:31 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBAGGpx01OlmLA/2dsb2JhbAAMglfoDYYMBIIpkgGKGQ X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,339,1301871600"; d="scan'208,217";a="488566132" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.2]) ([78.150.98.192]) by out1.ip08ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 09 May 2011 09:45:22 +0100 Message-ID: <4DC7A9A1.6090005@talktalk.net> Date: Mon, 09 May 2011 09:45:21 +0100 From: qrss <qrss@talktalk.net> User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC28736.5070405@talktalk.net> <8CDD93ACCC1EFE6-153C-39E0A@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <4DC2A264.5050606@talktalk.net> <822009.51309.qm@web111905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC2A9C5.2050209@talktalk.net> <4DC2CAAD.70705@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <297824.60173.qm@web111914.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC71EB2.5010005@talktalk.net> <4DC7A312.9070503@dsl.pipex.com> <668413.2745.qm@web111912.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: <668413.2745.qm@web111912.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060608070205050005000304" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60494dc7aa002dd7 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------060608070205050005000304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Daniele / Chris et al I will take a good look at the ZEVS breakfast code in moment, I have a burst of noise covering the start bit. OK on the 11.7Hz Daniele, I will take a close look there too to try and establish if it is a received signal. These cariers are too stable to be from local devices I think. 73 Eddie G3ZJO On 09/05/2011 09:30, Daniele Tincani wrote: > Hello Chris, > I have no doubt that that 11.7Hz-spaced lines on my SpecLab > screen have a local origin. I am just curious about their source. > Following web page http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/ mentions 11.7Hz as > one of ELF carriers visibile at the author's location (/"At my urban > location there are several carriers visible, > 5.9Hz,8.8Hz,*11.7Hz*,16Hz, 23Hz and 32Hz"/) but it does not tell > anything about the possible origin. > Regards > D. > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *From:* Chris Dillon <c.r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com> > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Sent:* Mon, May 9, 2011 10:17:22 AM > *Subject:* ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC > > Hi all - ZEVS transmitting on schedule from 0800 UTC this morning. > > Eddie, Daniele - I don't have an 80Hz carrier here at IO92vf. I'll > look out for the others. > > Chris > > > On 08/05/2011 23:52, qrss wrote: >> Sorry Daniele no idea 1.7Hz and multiples. >> >> Both Stefan and I have an 80Hz constant carrier, I am also pretty >> sure about 16Hz 32Hz and 64Hz being received signals. >> Perhaps the growing band of listeners can confirm these as also >> received elsewhere. >> >> Eddie >> >> On 08/05/2011 23:40, Daniele Tincani wrote: >>> I see a constant trace at 82Hz, but it appears to be 7 x 11.7Hz, as >>> I see other similar traces at 6 x 11.7Hz (70.28Hz) and 8 x 11.7Hz >>> (93.72Hz), etc. Does anyone know about a possible origin of these >>> 11.7Hz-spaced carriers (or harmonics)? >>> Regards >>> Daniele >> > --------------060608070205050005000304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> Hi Daniele / Chris et al<br> <br> I will take a good look at the ZEVS breakfast code in moment, I have a burst of noise covering the start bit.<br> <br> OK on the 11.7Hz Daniele, I will take a close look there too to try and establish if it is a received signal. These cariers are too stable to be from local devices I think.<br> <br> 73 Eddie G3ZJO<br> <br> <br> <br> <br> <br> On 09/05/2011 09:30, Daniele Tincani wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:668413.2745.qm@web111912.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" type="cite"> <style type="text/css"><!-- DIV {margin:0px;} --></style> <div style="font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;"> <div>Hello Chris,</div> <div> </div> <div>I have no doubt that that 11.7Hz-spaced lines on my SpecLab screen have a local origin. I am just curious about their source.</div> <div> </div> <div>Following web page <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/">http://g3zjo-radio.blog.co.uk/</a> mentions 11.7Hz as one of ELF carriers visibile at the author's location (<em>"At my urban location there are several carriers visible, 5.9Hz,8.8Hz,<strong>11.7Hz</strong>,16Hz, 23Hz and 32Hz"</em>) but it does not tell anything about the possible origin.</div> <div> </div> <div>Regards</div> <div>D.<br> <br> </div> <div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"><br> <div style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: times new roman,new york,times,serif;"><font size="2" face="Tahoma"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">From:</span></b> Chris Dillon <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:c.r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com"><c.r.dillon@dsl.pipex.com></a><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org</a><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Mon, May 9, 2011 10:17:22 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> ELF: ZEVS transmitting from 0800UTC<br> </font><br> <meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"> Hi all - ZEVS transmitting on schedule from 0800 UTC this morning. <br> <br> Eddie, Daniele - I don't have an 80Hz carrier here at IO92vf. I'll look out for the others. <br> <br> Chris <br> <br> <br> On 08/05/2011 23:52, qrss wrote: <blockquote type="cite">Sorry Daniele no idea 1.7Hz and multiples.<br> <br> Both Stefan and I have an 80Hz constant carrier, I am also pretty sure about 16Hz 32Hz and 64Hz being received signals.<br> Perhaps the growing band of listeners can confirm these as also received elsewhere.<br> <br> Eddie<br> <br> On 08/05/2011 23:40, Daniele Tincani wrote: <blockquote type="cite"> <div style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"> <div>I see a constant trace at 82Hz, but it appears to be 7 x 11.7Hz, as I see other similar traces at 6 x 11.7Hz (70.28Hz) and 8 x 11.7Hz (93.72Hz), etc. Does anyone know about a possible origin of these 11.7Hz-spaced carriers (or harmonics)?</div> <div>Regards</div> <div>Daniele</div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </blockquote> <br> <meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="on"> </div> </div> </div> </blockquote> <br> </body> </html> --------------060608070205050005000304--