Return-Path: Received: from mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.214]) by air-mb03.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMB031-a2144dc39cf11f1; Fri, 06 May 2011 03:02:09 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 5DD1B38000098; Fri, 6 May 2011 03:02:02 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QIF1U-0008Qp-Ng for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:00:24 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QIF1U-0008Qg-5t for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:00:24 +0100 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QIF1S-0003Rs-GC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 May 2011 08:00:24 +0100 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ApIBABOcw01cGSNn/2dsb2JhbAAMglitRr0GhgkEgiiRbYoU X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.64,325,1301871600"; d="scan'208,217";a="331718786" Received: from unknown (HELO [192.168.2.4]) ([92.25.35.103]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 06 May 2011 08:00:15 +0100 Message-ID: <4DC39C7E.5060705@talktalk.net> Date: Fri, 06 May 2011 08:00:14 +0100 From: qrss User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-GB; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4DC28736.5070405@talktalk.net> <8CDD93ACCC1EFE6-153C-39E0A@Webmail-d111.sysops.aol.com> <4DC2A264.5050606@talktalk.net> <822009.51309.qm@web111905.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <4DC2A9C5.2050209@talktalk.net> <4DC2CAAD.70705@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4DC2CAAD.70705@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: ELF: Zevs Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010805010807020003040908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.1 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d64dc39ce9559c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------010805010807020003040908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan I see you have a "trace" of some noise this morning, same here. Pleased=20 really because it confirms the levels I have been seeing. Hence my=20 thinking something was wrong when it was so quiet yesterday AM. I hope it quietens later but we have a band of lightning waiting to=20 cross the English Channel. 73 Eddie On 05/05/2011 17:05, Stefan Sch=E4fer wrote: > Hi Eddie, Daniele, ELF ;-) > > My temporarely window is running here=20 > http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html > Curious if i'll get a trace tomorrow morning... > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 05.05.2011 15:44, schrieb qrss: >> Hi Daniele >> >> I will send them to you direct plus a full screen shot also. >> >> 73 Eddie >> >> On 05/05/2011 14:30, Daniele Tincani wrote: >>> Hello VLF, >>> could some of you be so kind to re-send the two Eddie's JPEG's that=20 >>> I forgot to save? >>> Many thanks :-) >>> Daniele >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------= -- >>> *From:* qrss >>> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>> *Sent:* Thu, May 5, 2011 3:13:08 PM >>> *Subject:* Re: ELF: Zevs >>> >>> Hi Marcus >>> >>> Many thanks, I saw the dashes but could not imagine they belonged to= =20 >>> ZEVS, the shift is greater than expected and didn't fit in with the=20 >>> message format I had seen described. Add to that some short spikes=20 >>> from 50Hz around that time and the inexperienced ignore the evidence. >>> >>> Considering I am using a 'Stefan' (TM) un-modded probe (I was=20 >>> looking at the level of attenuation of the filter last night) it is=20 >>> truly amazing. >>> >>> 73 Eddie >>> >>> On 05/05/2011 13:55, Markus Vester wrote: >>>> Hi Eddie, >>>> this is a very nice observation! Before the constant=20 >>>> carrier started at 9:30, there was a message consisting of several=20 >>>> five-minute dashes between 82 and 83 Hz, well visible on your grabber= . >>>> Best 73, >>>> Markus >>>> >>>> -----Urspr=FCngliche Mitteilung----- >>>> Von: qrss >>>> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >>>> Verschickt: Do., 5. Mai. 2011, 13:17 >>>> Thema: LF: ELF Zevs >>>> >>>> Stefan LF >>>> >>>> Today, early morning was so quiet on VLF that I thought that my ELF= =20 >>>> SpecLab RX I was running yesterday was playing up, I started a=20 >>>> second RX with a faster sample rate, which is on my Grabber now. >>>> >>>> Once both were set up I took a look for ZEVS. See zevs1.jpg from=20 >>>> the first RX. Maybe the signal came up in strength at 09.30 for 1=20 >>>> Hour the frequency was spot on 82Hz, the readout of the cross hairs= =20 >>>> can be slightly above or below not correct. >>>> Checking the second RX see zevs2.jpg it looks more like it switched= =20 >>>> on at 09.30 for 1 hour precisely, this time I settled the cross=20 >>>> hairs at the higher readout. >>>> >>>> 73 Eddie G3ZJO >>>> >>>> Disclaimer. This is NOT Amateur Radio, a straight line on the exact= =20 >>>> frequency is no proof that the carrier belongs to ZEVS ....blah=20 >>>> blah YAWN.>:o >>>> >>> >> --------------010805010807020003040908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Stefan

I see you have a "trace" of some noise this morning, same here. Pleased really because it confirms the levels I have been seeing. Hence my thinking something was wrong when it was so quiet yesterday AM.
I hope it quietens later but we have a band of lightning waiting to cross the English Channel.

73 Eddie

On 05/05/2011 17:05, Stefan Schäfer wrote:

Hi Eddie, Daniele, ELF ;-)

My temporarely window is running here http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_VLF_Grabber2.html
Curious if i'll get a trace tomorrow morning...

73, Stefan


Am 05.05.2011 15:44, schrieb qrss:
Hi Daniele

I will send them to you direct plus a full screen shot also.

73 Eddie

On 05/05/2011 14:30, Daniele Tincani wrote:
Hello VLF,
could some of you be so kind to re-send the two Eddie's JPEG's that I forgot to save?
Many thanks :-)
Daniele

From: qrss <qrss@talktalk.net>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Thu, May 5, 2011 3:13:08 PM
Subject: Re: ELF: Zevs

Hi Marcus

Many thanks, I saw the dashes but could not imagine they belonged to ZEVS, the shift is greater than expected and didn't fit in with the message format I had seen described. Add to that some short spikes from 50Hz around that time and the inexperienced ignore the evidence.

Considering I am using a 'Stefan' (TM) un-modded probe (I was looking at the level of attenuation of the filter last night) it is truly amazing.

73 Eddie 

On 05/05/2011 13:55, Markus Vester wrote:
Hi Eddie,
 
this is a very nice observation! Before the constant carrier started at 9:30, there was a message consisting of several five-minute dashes between 82 and 83 Hz, well visible on your grabber.
 
Best 73,
Markus

-----Ursprüngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: qrss <qrss@talktalk.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Verschickt: Do., 5. Mai. 2011, 13:17
Thema: LF: ELF Zevs

Stefan LF 
 
Today, early morning was so quiet on VLF that I thought that my ELF SpecLab RX I was running yesterday was playing up, I started a second RX with a faster sample rate, which is on my Grabber now. 
 
Once both were set up I took a look for ZEVS. See zevs1.jpg from the first RX. Maybe the signal came up in strength at 09.30 for 1 Hour the frequency was spot on 82Hz, the readout of the cross hairs can be slightly above or below not correct. 
Checking the second RX see zevs2.jpg it looks more like it switched on at 09.30 for 1 hour precisely, this time I settled the cross hairs at the higher readout. 
 
73 Eddie G3ZJO 
 
Disclaimer. This is NOT Amateur Radio, a straight line on the exact frequency is no proof that the carrier belongs to ZEVS ....blah blah YAWN.>:o 
 



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