Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.14]) by air-db05.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINDB053-86474dbd977e2fe; Sun, 01 May 2011 13:25:18 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dg06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 634BA380000ED; Sun, 1 May 2011 13:25:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QGaNI-00035z-B0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:24:04 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QGaNH-00035q-Fr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:24:03 +0100 Received: from defout.telus.net ([204.209.205.13]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QGaND-0003N2-PT for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 May 2011 18:24:03 +0100 Received: from edmwcm03 ([204.209.205.13]) by priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20110501172356.PTSJ17193.priv-edmwes26.telusplanet.net@edmwcm03> for ; Sun, 1 May 2011 11:23:56 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.115] ([75.157.142.115]) by edmwcm03 with bizsmtp id eHPv1g00u2Vbb3f01HPvf5; Sun, 01 May 2011 11:23:56 -0600 X-Telus-Outbound-IP: 75.157.142.115 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=NlcOiVwr6USEgVCVk9zsh/JWnB3btf6FG4PYI3qmwIg= c=1 sm=2 a=PFWxWM63tqYA:10 a=U0YLjJQLMXkA:10 a=LGgl8L9ij00A:10 a=fnYqA7hvAAAA:8 a=j6Q1dnSHAAAA:8 a=A06HpNCPAAAA:20 a=8P0jffWtAAAA:20 a=jC5xLC1kD7sn0dOAmsoA:9 a=ODRnZYQbvkqXDom8cysA:7 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=jhzq8cMn3qFsrYeQS54A:9 a=a4o3RoT7eRAbieQC8ukA:7 Message-ID: <4DBD972B.3020604@telus.net> Date: Sun, 01 May 2011 10:23:55 -0700 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.17) Gecko/20110414 Lightning/1.0b2 Thunderbird/3.1.10 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: 325km with the QRPp QRSS30 beacon Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050508050903000809090105" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.2 required=5.0 tests=BE_AMAZED,FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS, HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d410e4dbd977d6902 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050508050903000809090105 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicely done Roger and Henry! 73 Scott VE7TIL On 5/1/2011 10:05 AM, Roger Lapthorn wrote: > */"Because of the extremely low antenna efficiencies, 136kHz is not a > band for low power transmitters" - a quote from page 67 of "LF Today", > the excellent book by G3XDV and M0BMU./* > > Henny PA3CPM has sent me a screen shot taken this morning that shows > my signal reaching him in Holland. Just a few dB more would make quite > a difference and make the signal fully readable. I am very grateful to > Henny (and others) for working so hard to find me. > > I continue to be amazed, and really pleased, that something this > simple (2.4W RF, 50uW ERP, QRPp beacon TX and a simple thin wire loop > antenna) can be detected so far away, although I know others have done > far better. Of course, I accept it would not be possible without the > signal processing available to us on the RX end and the skill of those > like Henny winkling out the signal from the noise. > > ....but maybe in the next edition of the book, the words should be > changed? :-) > > 73s > Roger G3XBM > > > -- > http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ > http://www.g3xbm.co.uk > http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm > https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ > --------------050508050903000809090105 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Nicely done Roger and Henry!

73 Scott
VE7TIL

On 5/1/2011 10:05 AM, Roger Lapthorn wrote:
"Because of the extremely low antenna efficiencies, 136kHz is not a band for low power transmitters" - a quote from page 67 of "LF Today", the excellent book by G3XDV and M0BMU.

Henny PA3CPM has sent me a screen shot taken this morning that shows my signal reaching him in Holland. Just a few dB more would make quite a difference and make the signal fully readable. I am very grateful to Henny (and others) for working so hard to find me.

I continue to be amazed, and really pleased, that something this simple (2.4W RF, 50uW ERP, QRPp beacon TX and a simple thin wire loop antenna) can be detected so far away, although I know others have done far better.  Of course, I accept it would not be possible without the signal processing available to us on the RX end and the skill of those like Henny winkling out the signal from the noise.

....but maybe in the next edition of the book, the words should be changed? :-)

73s
Roger G3XBM


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