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Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2011 11:53:55 -0800
From: Scott Tilley <sthed475@telus.net>
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Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
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Mal - Your solderingskills are as dated as your operating skills.  I 
believe John was asking for advice on how to do this using MODERN 
techniques to ensure his safety and that of his home.  The proper way to 
solder anything is with proper ventilation thus the person working on 
the project is not subjected to the fumes of any kind in the work area.

John  - This may sound expensive and complex but can be accomplished 
with a run of flexible metal dryer duct with an inline duct boaster 
fan.  Vent through a nearby window. Visit your local building supply 
store as all parts are off the shelf types...  The system is portable, 
flexible and cheap.  Set the fan up to suck the air out the window via 
the ducting. Ensure you provide some kind of seal around the open window 
so the fumes don't have an easy way to reenter the room.  I use an old 
blanket to wrap the duct...  I'll leave the final arrangement to your 
imagination :-)

73 Scott
VE7TIL


On 2/23/2011 10:00 AM, mal hamilton wrote:
> That is not the correct procedure. To avoid toxic fumes you scrape the
> enamel off the wire then tin and solder.
> Radio Amateurs know what to do but Appliance Operators will eventually
> poison themselves.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Uwe Wensauer"<uwe.wensauer@gmx.de>
> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 4:16 PM
> Subject: LF: Re: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
>
>
>> Enamel removing ist much easier done:
>> Built a solder bubble with the irion and  pierce through slowly the bubble
>> with the wire. The hot solder will melt the enamel
>>
>> The fume generated is toxic !
>>
>> Same procedure also valuable for stranded wire (Litze).
>>
>> 73
>> Uwe
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "mal hamilton"<g3kevmal@talktalk.net>
>> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 12:57 PM
>> Subject: LF: Re: Soldering enamelled copper wire
>>
>>
>>> Yes
>>> You scrape the enamel from the area to be soldered to reveal the bare
>>> copper
>>> wire then solder in the normal way.
>>> G3KEV
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "John Rabson"<john.rabson@numeo.fr>
>>> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 23, 2011 10:23 AM
>>> Subject: LF: Soldering enamelled copper wire
>>>
>>>
>>> LF,
>>>
>>> I have a reel of such wire labelled as follows:
>>>
>>> "Wire copper enamelled
>>> Part 1230983 0.71 mm 1/2 kg
>>> Solder only in well ventilated area. Fumes are toxic"
>>>
>>> The manufacturer is stated to be Rowan Cable Products Ltd.  I found
> their
>>> website but don't seem able to get into it to find out whether the
>>> covering
>>> of the wire is solderable and (if so)  whether any special techniques
> are
>>> required.
>>>
>>> Can anyone advise, please?
>>>
>>> 73
>>> John F5VLF
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>