Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.19]) by air-dc03.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC031-85ff4d604a352a; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:54:45 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-ma11.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id B7D9E3800035F; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:54:44 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pqvgd-0004Rz-FH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pqvgd-0004Rq-2f for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from mout7.freenet.de ([195.4.92.97]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqvgb-000228-VP for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 22:53:59 +0000 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout7.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1Pqvgb-00066a-5u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:53:57 +0100 Received: from blfd-4db181ad.pool.mediaways.net ([77.177.129.173]:4119 helo=[192.168.0.101]) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpsa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (TLSv1:CAMELLIA256-SHA:256) (port 465) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1Pqvga-0007xW-Up for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:53:57 +0100 Message-ID: <4D604A00.9020801@freenet.de> Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 23:53:52 +0100 From: wolf_dl4yhf User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101207 Thunderbird/3.1.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4D5DDD5F.3050307@gmail.com> <4D5E6D92.2060608@freenet.de> <4D5F12D8.4010505@gmail.com> <4D5F90FC.2080403@freenet.de> <4D6043AF.3000207@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <4D6043AF.3000207@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: HGA22 plot Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60134d604a340418 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Hello Dex, Try to use a bit larger bandwidth, and use the average power function (avrg_n, see below). For FSK, MSK, and similar modes, the *power* contained in the signal is independent of the modulation as long as the frequency range covers most of that. Details about that function are here: http://www.qsl.net/dl4yhf/speclab/interpr.htm#avrg_func The problem is that the FSK bursts are relatively wide (~~ 150 Hz at Markus' LF grabber), so to measure a constant power even during the bursts, you would sacrifice some signal to noise ratio due to the wider 'receiver bandwidth'. Suggestion: Use a second channel which measures the average power (instead of the peak voltage), and compare them over some time. Hopefully the same diurnal variation is visible in both curves. But there may be a different explanation (I admit, wild guesswork): Does your receiver have an AGC ? If so, could there be some kind of beating signals, causing the 'needle to move', which also affects the total gain between antenna and audio output ? In that case other, sufficiently strong 'carriers' would show the same pattern, which iirc was not the case. All the best, Wolf .