Return-Path: Received: from mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.92]) by air-md07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMD073-8b8e4d46dab95a; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:52:25 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md08.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F1F2638000081; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 10:52:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pjw2L-0006Ml-Jd for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:51:29 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pjw2L-0006Mc-4D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:51:29 +0000 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([213.165.64.23]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pjw2I-0003to-KM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 15:51:29 +0000 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 31 Jan 2011 15:51:15 -0000 Received: from p5480D19B.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO [192.168.0.6]) [84.128.209.155] by mail.gmx.net (mp015) with SMTP; 31 Jan 2011 16:51:15 +0100 X-Authenticated: #21215289 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+waMBaLg+wfELF7/rlp98QDC9DBM4HQAsHCn4E+B 1jmvL6XNi4EXZo From: "Jurgen Bartels" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 16:51:16 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4D46E884.13766.47BD3EE@jurgenb2.3sdesign.de> In-reply-to: References: , <4D46CE2C.8030206@o2.ie>, X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: Quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605c4d46dab77d5c X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 > I can confirm this - having once enquired of TVLO just to see if it was > possible, but still needing a set coz of Am TV > They even stated the conditions for the TV to be legal, which were : >=20 > Not connected to any antenna > All channel buttons "detuned" I envy you Brits living in the land of liberty !! We have to pay when - there's a TV or radio in the house, no matter if it's connected or not - there's a PC connected to internet - have to pay a 2nd fee if the (same) PC is used for business - every company has to pay radio fee for each division if there's=20 a PC connected to internet - every car radio when used for business - every vacation home - every garden shack with radio / TV if it's more than 1km from your hou= se - hotels, hospitals etc, even when the viewer cannot simultanously=20 can't wath at home It's a total rip off and the organisation collecting it (called GEZ) has= =20 enormous power and gets data from your community. They immediately got inf= ormed=20 when I moved house. Jurgen Bartels Suellwarden, N. Germany hor. Antennas: 11-ele 45-87MHz 13-ele Band-III, 48-ele UHF, FM: 15.11=20 TV: Winradio G305 / Fly2000 + video noise filter & variable IF BW FM: Downconverter + Perseus + Speclab as WFM demod. MW: staggered 300m Beverage 320=B0, 30 x 4m EWE 320=B0, Winradio & Perseu= s http://dx.3sdesign.de/tv_offset_list.htm http://dx.3sdesign.de/station_list.htm http://fewo.3sdesign.de - Vacation home: DX right at the Northsea coast