Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dh10.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dh10.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.65.30]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB042-a26e4d1bc04998; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:12:09 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dh10.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 248643800008F; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 18:12:07 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PY5Ac-0007bL-BX for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:11:02 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PY5Ab-0007bC-U7 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:11:01 +0000 Received: from mailt.toya.net.pl ([217.113.224.9] ident=postfix) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PY5AZ-0001xC-Iw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 29 Dec 2010 23:11:01 +0000 Received: from mail.toya.net.pl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AE97120000822 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:10:58 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix, from userid 5001) id A37D5200008B9; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:10:58 +0100 (CET) Received: from [192.168.1.100] (unknown [10.3.153.39]) (Authenticated sender: unimlyn@toya.net.pl) by mail.toya.net.pl (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 9906120000822 for ; Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:10:56 +0100 (CET) Message-ID: <4D1BC000.5070507@toya.net.pl> Date: Thu, 30 Dec 2010 00:10:56 +0100 From: Piotr Mlynarski User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <5010F8F002AC4F598A01115AA882C5CD@White> <4D17D186.9010504@gmail.com> <002401cba55d$47d7fcf0$8d01a8c0@JAYDELL> <1EDC8A62B7414B45AA7725E81BB5111F@White> <4D191F8C.8060209@toya.net.pl> <4D1927DC.4080103@toya.net.pl> <4D1929D0.1050308@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <4D1929D0.1050308@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> X-AV-Checked: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: "NM" on 136177.5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: S X-AOL-REROUTE: YES x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d411e4d1bc0474686 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Stefan Sch=E4fer pisze: > Hello Piotr, > > Nice to see that you enjoy the LF receptions :-) Generally its nice to= =20 > see new upcoming stations and a never ending interest in LF operation.= =20 > Soon, i will be one of the active TX stations with a fixed antenna=20 > too. I am looking forward to this :-) > > 73, Stefan Hi Stefan, First of all i thank you for your response due to my LF reception=20 reports. Sure, it does not happen very often as i live in a really=20 hostile environment as far as receiving long waves is concerned. Nevertheless, i do enjoy every single lf reception even if it is a very = =20 'short' distance ( according to 'standards' established by current=20 T/A observations, transpacific qso etc...) so i was really happy to see=20 for the first time Markus, DF6NM and Gus, SM6BHZ tx'ing in the EU '177 window . I even managed=20 to set up LF grabber: http://www.toya.net.pl/~mlynarski/ which i=20 will be switching on ocasionally or upon request. you may regard this as a 'lower bound' of RX observations i.e. if=20 something is seen on my grabber it means whole world is already watching= =20 this :) ( btw , abt 21 utc.. Markus started TX'ing as i can see veeeery weak=20 traces at 136.1775 kHz ) the distance to Markus is abt 640 km , to Gus abt 817 km so when you=20 will be qrv on 137 frm Heidelberg ( 801 km ) i am pretty sure that , on= =20 statistical average, i will be in position to receive your signal, so=20 likely, we may have a x-band qso on 137 kHz - it would be a great pleasure for=20 me if this would have happened ! on VLF issues.... just today, Ken, M0KHW asked you abt possible=20 replacement of bf862 jfet. i can confirm your answer that J310 also=20 works in your VLF antenna - i have already built it and tested shortly= =20 during Christmas Eve SAQ transmission - it worked but i had too much qrm so i= =20 it had to be replaced by the loop which nulled some of the qrm.=20 Of course, the placement of the antenna ( i.e. on my balkony) was=20 absolutely inappropriate but i did it only for checking purposes etc...=20 i have also used your idea of separating jfet along with 1M, 10M R's=20 and 20nF cap into a waterproof box while placing the remaining parts in=20 a separate box and used abt 20 m of pair cable between. i am preparing for your next kite vlf experiment but this time i will=20 be /p station abt 10 km away frm my qth so i will try to check if=20 the numerical model of earth-ionosphere waveguide works in practice .. :) i plan to use your VLF active antenna along with the SDR-IQ receiver . At this moment i have completely no idea how to make 'the calibration'=20 of such setup in order to have the readouts comparable with some=20 theoretical predictions but the 'long winter evenings', hopefully, will provide some solutions= :) Yours,=20 Piotr, sq7mpj qth: Lodz /jo91rs/