Return-Path: Received: from mtain-db12.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-db12.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.96]) by air-dc07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC072-862b4ce8ed2a2f0; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:58:02 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-db12.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 2F0BB3800008D; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 04:58:01 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1PK6en-0007F6-Fy for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:25 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1PK6en-0007Ex-2R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:25 +0000 Received: from cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com ([213.75.39.5]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1PK6em-0004sN-FV for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 21 Nov 2010 09:56:25 +0000 Received: from cpbrm-ews03.kpnxchange.com ([10.94.84.134]) by cpsmtpb-ews02.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:56:17 +0100 Received: from CPSMTPM-EML107.kpnxchange.com ([195.121.3.11]) by cpbrm-ews03.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:56:17 +0100 Received: from [192.168.2.13] ([62.131.23.134]) by CPSMTPM-EML107.kpnxchange.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(7.0.6002.18222); Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:56:17 +0100 Message-ID: <4CE8ECC1.100@kpnmail.nl> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2010 10:56:17 +0100 From: pa3abk User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; nl; rv:1.9.2.12) Gecko/20101027 Thunderbird/3.1.6 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <8FA94C1DE6F6465C9C511D7A455AB4BB@ns94d01ae4d850> <4CE85C77.5010109@kpnmail.nl> <2B3CD1CBF5E640E4940852C83319C537@2a2d7ed321c6425> In-Reply-To: <2B3CD1CBF5E640E4940852C83319C537@2a2d7ed321c6425> X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Nov 2010 09:56:17.0594 (UTC) FILETIME=[576099A0:01CB8962] X-RcptDomain: blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: AW: LF: MF_Beacon DI2AF is running Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40604ce8ed2969e9 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I'm bit puzzled with this band. Every administration seems to have their own rules regarding the=20 frequency we can use. Maybe they think that radiowaves just stop at their borders :-) Even Marconi prooved that communication on this band can be longrange. Nevertheless a solution might be, to talk with the other users and ask = =20 the "Beh=F6rde" to apply the rules which are generally applied in the EU= =20 or better worldwide. Temporarely a slottime arrangement with other users= =20 could be a solution. Spain joined use lately I was happy to see that they synced their band=20 with ours. On the other hand I consider it a challenge to decode your signal under = =20 these circumstances. It's good visible in Speclab in fragments, but it appears that the=20 dynamic range of soundcard and/or receiver is not sufficient to get it=20 right. Maybe it's the combination of morse and WSPR is upsetting the software. The program takes sometimes a very longtime to decode, normally within a= =20 few seconds, but on "your" QRG sometime 20 secs. Jan/pa3abk Op 21-11-2010 1:18, Beckmann, Gerhard schreef: > Hello Jan, > > first of all thank you very much for all your report activity concerning= my > new QRP-beacon. That is a great help for me. I looked for your Mail-adre= ss > and did not find it. So I am happy to get your Mail and can say my "Than= k > you"!!! Yes you are right it is a big problem for German Hams to work on= MF > because we need an extra licence and have to pay for it. Next problem:= We > are only allowed to operate on 505,1 kHz +/- 100 Hz. SDo we have to shre > this small band width with all other participants. And the strong beacon > DI2AM is on 505,180 kHz...That's my problem... > I will talk to all participants if I can change to 505,040 kHz. Would th= at > bee a better solution?? > Thanks again for your kind help, dear Jan. > > Best 73 and have a nice Sunday de Gerhard / DK6NI > > =3D=3D=3D > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von pa3abk > Gesendet: Sonntag, 21. November 2010 00:41 > An:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: LF: MF_Beacon DI2AF is running > > Gerhard, > > Q: Does German rules oblige you to transmit there? > Your sig is sandwiched between very strong DL CW beacons. > If I notch out DI7AM (the strongest) there is a dramatic signal > improvement . > Considering your power and my local QRM level the result is vy good. > Jan/pa3abk > > > > >