Return-Path: Received: from mtain-dj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-dj04.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.19.187.140]) by air-dc08.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDC083-86544cb5d3632b4; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:42:27 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id F234C380001A9; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 11:42:25 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1P63Rm-0004MP-31 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:40:54 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1P63Rl-0004MG-Ly for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:40:53 +0100 Received: from outbound03.telus.net ([199.185.220.222]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1P63Ri-0005Gb-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 16:40:53 +0100 Received: from edtnaa02.telusplanet.net ([75.157.170.89]) by priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net (InterMail vM.8.01.03.00 201-2260-125-20100507) with ESMTP id <20101013154046.LDNF1437.priv-edtnes29.telusplanet.net@edtnaa02.telusplanet.net> for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:46 -0600 Received: from [192.168.1.66] (d75-157-170-89.bchsia.telus.net [75.157.170.89]) by edtnaa02.telusplanet.net (BorderWare Security Platform) with ESMTP id 955983D1E38EC41D for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:40:46 -0600 (MDT) Message-ID: <4CB5D2FE.50808@telus.net> Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 15:40:46 +0000 From: Scott Tilley User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01cb6abb$719bb6d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <001a01cb6acd$586783d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001a01cb6acd$586783d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=kZg5dDMCzg56O6oa3sy50N+ThTj/gwIul7GKMidoYC4= c=1 sm=0 a=1eMnrADBnnEA:10 a=VlsvQeCHHzZYdozF1C9JGw==:17 a=F3M5lZpKAAAA:8 a=F9CFDMSFAAAA:8 a=nN7BH9HXAAAA:8 a=zE8SjG5e0TUucXrxvb0A:9 a=Z8R6GoE-s9jmnTtWx7AX2BO3pz4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=muIvw5a9-cgA:10 a=EENBJQdd_LwnZ0U02PIA:9 a=cCS6qrzPbj5LvPbtiW4A:7 a=St6Y3CqU_NYF6eOPRV8owcnVREoA:4 a=HpAAvcLHHh0Zw7uRqdWCyQ==:117 X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: Ground proximity antennas Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------050703090500090300050909" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.3 required=5.0 tests=FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS,HTML_40_50, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039cdbc9d084cb5d3612548 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------050703090500090300050909 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't you miss Stefan's last 8970 signal and log the neighbour's toaster instead? On 10/13/2010 11:54 AM, mal hamilton wrote: > Beverages are not efficient on RX either but have directional > advantages. I have never missed any DX signals by not having one. > G3KEV > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Rik Strobbe > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:05 AM > *Subject:* LF: RE: Ground proximity antennas > > Beverage antenna (also) for transmitting : > http://nrcdxas.org/articles/Beverage0183.pdf > 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > *Van:* owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton > [g3kevmal@talktalk.net] > *Verzonden:* woensdag 13 oktober 2010 11:46 > *Aan:* rsgb > *Onderwerp:* LF: Ground proximity antennas > > Antennas described on here recently on or near the ground are only > variations of Beverage antennas and inefficient for Transmitting > but useful for Receiving under certain circumstances > G3KEV > --------------050703090500090300050909 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Didn't you miss Stefan's last 8970 signal and log the neighbour's toaster instead?



On 10/13/2010 11:54 AM, mal hamilton wrote:
Beverages are not efficient on RX either but have directional advantages. I have never missed any DX signals by not having one.
G3KEV
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 11:05 AM
Subject: LF: RE: Ground proximity antennas

Beverage antenna (also) for transmitting : http://nrcdxas.org/articles/Beverage0183.pdf
 
73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T
 
 
Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens mal hamilton [g3kevmal@talktalk.net]
Verzonden: woensdag 13 oktober 2010 11:46
Aan: rsgb
Onderwerp: LF: Ground proximity antennas

Antennas described on here recently on or near the ground are only variations of Beverage antennas and inefficient for Transmitting but useful for Receiving under certain circumstances
G3KEV
 
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