Return-Path: Received: from mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.64.201]) by air-df05.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF051-5ef24c9bc3ca25c; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:16:58 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-de01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DFF81380000DF; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:16:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Oyt8Z-0006Mp-VS for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:15:27 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Oyt8P-0006Mg-Ib for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:15:17 +0100 Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com ([71.74.56.124]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oyt8N-0007A5-C0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 22:15:18 +0100 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.1 cv=Yii9LXZpONf3Dl4H+sCjsa4WyoNNo7yi1hAau1xJxWE= c=1 sm=0 a=--VNelAeuYsA:10 a=2rEbgjVBoJfJu2BmwOwSdw==:17 a=oCcaPWc0AAAA:8 a=BJvVg5FEcdTbfYfyETwA:9 a=QaqvTnq5uiN6knlMJ30A:7 a=nfX4ziW7fLiacg3nYYs-Q_rns-4A:4 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=gB-FZM_vhs4bKrqp:21 a=hbGm0vYDR-dCea9o:21 a=9QIUJWivMAjlM6fcACAA:9 a=JHBbYPcOUK22oxiKTGMA:7 a=y6OVewwiQLAWQCqmIN3REx6tgNgA:4 a=2rEbgjVBoJfJu2BmwOwSdw==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 67.244.133.74 Received: from [67.244.133.74] ([67.244.133.74:4438] helo=[192.168.1.128]) by hrndva-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id 17/62-14564-B53CB9C4; Thu, 23 Sep 2010 21:15:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4C9BC35A.9090406@ecsykes.com> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2010 17:15:06 -0400 From: Steve Sykes User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.9) Gecko/20100915 Thunderbird/3.1.4 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000c01cb5a7a$44cfcc50$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4C1A271605FB0B62@smtp208.alice.it> <1285185012.2042.23.camel@gerhard-desktop> <4C1A26CF0601C347@smtp207.alice.it> (added by postmaster@alice.it) In-Reply-To: <4C1A26CF0601C347@smtp207.alice.it> (added by postmaster@alice.it) X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: Re: LF: PA0RDT miniwhip in TX? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040605060101030102060905" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40c94c9bc3c86a60 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) --------------040605060101030102060905 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is also a possibility that diodes used like this will cause IMD when used near a strong RF Field. I agree with Roelof, don't try to fix a problem that isn't there. I have used the antenna less than 5 feet away from a 150 watt HF data transmitter without issue. The U310 is a very good device. Steve KD2OM/NNN0HSB On 9/22/2010 4:34 PM, Marco IK1ODO wrote: > Hello Gerhard, > > the 100n capacitor will do nothing, it is in series with the input pad > capacitance (a few pF). > The diodes will clamp at 0.6 V, that is too low (every static "crack" > will send the diodes in conduction) and limits the dynamic range. > More, they will add capacity (2 pF each?) at the very critical point > of the amplifier input, decreasing the gain. > I think I will leave the gate alone, as in the original design. > > Possibly the idea of a small reed relay to be closed in TX may be > better; those have very low C. But I will do that only after the ninth > burnt J310 - they are so cheap from Roelof :-) (just jocking, of > course, I could not resist) > > 73 - Marco IK1ODO > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/22/10 02:34:00 > --------------040605060101030102060905 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit There is also a possibility that diodes used like this will cause IMD when used near a strong RF Field.  I agree with Roelof, don't try to fix a problem that isn't there.  I have used the antenna less than 5 feet away from a 150 watt HF data transmitter without issue.  The U310 is a very good device.

Steve KD2OM/NNN0HSB
On 9/22/2010 4:34 PM, Marco IK1ODO wrote:
Hello Gerhard,

the 100n capacitor will do nothing, it is in series with the input pad capacitance (a few pF).
The diodes will clamp at 0.6 V, that is too low (every static "crack" will send the diodes in conduction) and limits the dynamic range.
More, they will add capacity (2 pF each?) at the very critical point of the amplifier input, decreasing the gain.
I think I will leave the gate alone, as in the original design.

Possibly the idea of a small reed relay to be closed in TX may be better; those have very low C. But I will do that only after the ninth burnt J310 - they are so cheap from Roelof :-) (just jocking, of course, I could not resist)

73 - Marco IK1ODO

No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3152 - Release Date: 09/22/10 02:34:00

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