Return-Path: Received: from mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.15]) by air-df04.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINDF044-5ef14c626f221b9; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:36:34 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-ma07.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6234B380000B7; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:36:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Oj7iH-0000i3-S4 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:35:09 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Oj7iH-0000hu-Ch for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:35:09 +0100 Received: from relay01a.mail.uk1.eechost.net ([217.69.40.75] helo=relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Oj7iG-0000m3-On for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:35:09 +0100 Received: from [88.151.27.235] (helo=[192.168.1.107]) by relay03.mail.uk1.eechost.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.68) (envelope-from ) id 1Oj7ht-00045i-V3 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:34:46 +0100 Message-ID: <4C626E89.5020002@o2.ie> Date: Wed, 11 Aug 2010 10:34:01 +0100 From: Tony User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.9.2.8) Gecko/20100802 Thunderbird/3.1.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Auth-Info: 3810@permanet.ie (plain) X-Spam-Score: 1.4 (+) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,RATWARE_GECKO_BUILD=1.426 Subject: LF: Earth antenna Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d600f4c626f213658 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) I have finally found the time to get some (radio) work done here and got my 2nd tower finished and I erected an inverted L, 10m vertical and 30m top rising to 15m at the far end. I still have the "earth antenna" which is just a length of wire laying on the ground 80m long and terminated directly to an earth stake and laying roughly in the same direction as the top wire of the L . Comparing the two gave some very interesting results. 10 MHz CW L = S7 earth = S1 7 MHz CW L = S9 earth = S3 R. Bristol 1566 KHz L = 0 earth = S2 Donebach 153 KHz L = S6 earth = S8 DCF77 77.5 KHz L = S3 earth = S5 MSF 60 KHz L = S4 earth = S8 All very non-technical I know, neither antenna was matched or tuned in any way and was all done about 13:00z. There was no noticeable difference in the noise level but when I tried it before the earth antenna was very much quieter after dark. I will try and repeat this tonight and see what the difference is then. Tony, EI8JK.