Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mi01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mi01.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.154]) by air-me07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINME074-8bbb4c5528f7227; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 03:57:43 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mtain-mi01.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C4A75380000BA; Sun, 1 Aug 2010 03:57:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1OfTPU-0006eV-HH for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:56:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1OfTPT-0006eM-Vv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:56:39 +0100 Received: from mout5.freenet.de ([195.4.92.95]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1OfTPT-0004su-A1 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 08:56:39 +0100 Received: from [195.4.92.21] (helo=11.mx.freenet.de) by mout5.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1OfTPS-00072T-6F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:56:38 +0200 Received: from blfd-4db1a1ab.pool.mediaways.net ([77.177.161.171]:2376 helo=[192.168.0.105]) by 11.mx.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (port 25) (Exim 4.72 #3) id 1OfTPS-0006Pr-0d for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:56:38 +0200 Message-ID: <4C5528B4.504@freenet.de> Date: Sun, 01 Aug 2010 09:56:36 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?V29sZmdhbmcgQsO8c2NoZXI=?= User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.24 (Windows/20100228) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4C51FA69.1030202@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4C529C6B.9070908@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <4C53EB92.4000806@legal-medicine.de> <4C53F284.7070307@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>, <003e01cb30c5$fc7cf7d0$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <672556391.1014007.1280648512218.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb079> In-Reply-To: <672556391.1014007.1280648512218.JavaMail.fmail@mwmweb079> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 6th VLF kite experiment Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039400cdec94c5528f53273 X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Horst, You need to change the frequency of the "1st mixer" : Options.. FFT Settings ... Center Frequency [Hz] . This reprograms the software NCO, and thus the displayable frequency range= . Cheers, Wolf . Horst St=C3=B6cker schrieb: > Hello all, > I have the same question. The 9khz_4mHz.usr can not be set to 6kHz just= by changing the frequency range or the center frequency. I am sure it's= a simple trick, but I could not find out. So I will have to use other set= tings - or someone has a quick hint. > QRM/QRN is relatively low this morning. Possibly to high, but I will igv= e it a try. > I am receiving with my T-Antenna and a my new hombrew preamp and soundca= rd. > Stefan, good luck - and to all the thousands of listeners, hi. > vy73 Horst DO1KHS/DI2AN > > > -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: mal hamilton > Gesendet: 31.07.2010 17:35:20 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Betreff: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 6th VLF kite experiment > > =20 >> Stefan >> Who has a RX setup that will be able to look for your signal, I seem to= be >> the only one so far. There is a trace on 8.97 at present but noone else= can >> see it. >> There is very little response via this reflector and vy little acty at >> present on 137 and 500. >> de mal/g3kev >> >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer"=20 >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2010 10:53 AM >> Subject: Re: VLF: DK7FC's 6th VLF kite experiment >> >> >> =20 >>> Hello Peter, >>> >>> Better say 6,6 +-200 Hz. It is still not certain where the resonance >>> will be, sorry. There are to many assumtions, estimations and >>> =20 >> calculations. >> =20 >>> On 137 kHz the measured C for 100m is 580pF (measured with a RC bridge >>> and by measuring the L and calculating C). But EZNEC shows a lower C. >>> This could be, since a 100m vertical is not absolutely short against >>> Lambda and so the sems to occur some impedance transformation which >>> "looks/behaves" like a higherC. >>> >>> On <9 kHz the 100m wire IS short against lambda and so i loose this >>> benefit. There, the actual C is present. The L of my variometer part= in >>> the BIG coil is estimated to be 30 mH. Maybe it is even more and the >>> overall L is higher than L(coil)+L(variometer) due to the better >>> magnetic coupling. So maybe i have less C and more L than thought on= 8,97. >>> >>> When doubling the antenna height from 100m to 200m and assuming 5 pF/m >>> the C is doubled as well. So i thought i will come out at 6,34 kHz >>> (8,97/sqrt(2)). But this may just a rough estimate. EZNEC says the C >>> factor is not 2 but 1,88 so i would come out some 100 Hz above. >>> >>> So the question is: >>> What is the actual antenna C for 100m >>> What is the actual (maximum and average) L >>> What is the C factor when going from 100m to 200m >>> >>> This are many uncertainties and so i didn't want to tap the coil at 70= % >>> of the winding to come back to 8,97 kHz but first just to measure out >>> where the resonance will be, to solve these open Questions. Of course, >>> another important and very interesting issue is propagation in the 46k= m >>> band! :-) >>> >>> So, sorry for that coarse frequency range. Maybe the actual QRG will= be >>> written here in the reflector and can be seen on my garbber2 but first >>> lets hope for proper WX! >>> >>> 73 and tnx, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >>> >>> Am 31.07.2010 11:23, schrieb pws: >>> =20 >>>> Hi Stefan, >>>> >>>> Question: do you have a realistic guess of the frequency window of yo= ur >>>> transmission around 6.5kHz, e.g. +-100Hz? >>>> >>>> You wrote: >>>> >>>> =20 >>>>> .... >>>>> on *Sunday, the 1. August*, i will make a new kite experiment. >>>>> ... >>>>> i will transmit at arround *6,5 kHz, >>>>> ... >>>>> Starting time is* 8 UTC*, maybe some time later >>>>> ... >>>>> TX QTH is as usual in JN49IS, 49.77647N 8.699525. >>>>> >>>>> =20 >>>> Distance is 516km, heading 10deg. to Kiel. >>>> >>>> Just modified the software running at ~17mHz of resolution. Antennas= are >>>> two crossed ferrite loops feeding some BC550 in parallel buffered by >>>> NE5532. Both amplifiers are connected to a M-Audio Audiophile 192 >>>> =20 >> running >> =20 >>>> at 24 kHz on an Intel Atom 330 "shoe-box" under Linux. >>>> >>>> 73 from Baltic Sea, >>>> Peter >>>> >>>> =20 >> =20 > ___________________________________________________________ > WEB.DE DSL ab 19,99 Euro/Monat. Bis zu 150,- Euro Startguthaben und=20 > 50,- Euro Geldpr=C3=A4mie inklusive! https://freundschaftswerbung.web.de > > > > =20