From: "Dave Sergeant" <dave@davesergeant.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 06:56:53 +0100
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In fact it is probably not the blacklist server itself but the hosting 
provider it runs on. I have a similar problem in emailing one of the 
chaps on the CDXC reflector as his hosting company runs its own 
blacklist of known spammer IPs, and one of the ones used by my hosting 
company SMTP server (not ISP) happens to be on it. All mails via that 
route bounce - with a confusing bounce message just saying it is 
delayed and not giving the real reason.

You could contact the blacklist owner (G4MJS) but I suspect he can do 
little to help as it is out of his hands. Sadly the only 'cure' is to 
send via a different smtp server - you can do this without changing 
your actual email address if you have a second SMTP server available - 
for instance you can always send via Gmail's servers but leave your 
'from' address unchanged. In my case I send mails to this chap via my 
ISP (O2) smtp server rather than my hosting SMTP server.

73 Dave G3YMC

On 27 Jun 2010 at 23:03, Alan Melia wrote:

> I am not the list-owner but I often pick up these queries on his behalf.
> We have had this problem before and it is nothing to do with the RSGB
> list. The problem lies in aggressive spam blocking of one of the
> intermediate nodes or even the blacksheep service provider. I am afraid
> in the past we have had little success clearing this problem. I suggest
> Daniele starts with his own service provider and askeds them why they
> are not able to deliver. Certain addresses have been tagged as
> transporters of significant volumes of spam and many of these are now
> blacklisted out of hand. It is an easy solution for the ISP. If you
> (Daniele) had been having trouble with the blacksheep system you would
> not have had a fail message........blacksheep just dumps messages it
> doesnt like and does not send responses to avoid the "ping-pong" effect.
> If Daniele has another mail address I suggest he tried that to see if
> that will get through. He will not be able to unsubscribe his alice.it
> address from any other address, and it may mean he will get two copies
> of every posting. If he genuinely wants to unsubscribe an address he
> should amil me directly and I will passon a reqyest for the owner to do
> it.
> 
> Sorry for the problems
> Alan G3NYK
> 


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