Return-Path: Received: from rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (rly-ma09.mail.aol.com [172.20.116.53]) by air-ma07.mail.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILINMA072-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:46 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-ma09.mx.aol.com (v120.9) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMA091-8c7474e0fad1b1; Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:02:39 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmq-0000SK-1z for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:52 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1IxXmp-0000SB-Eu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from qmta05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.48]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1IxXml-0005SK-Gy for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:51 +0000 Received: from OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.35]) by QMTA05.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JQpH1Y0020ldTLk0501P00; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 Received: from WarrenPC ([24.91.18.115]) by OMTA04.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id JR1d1Y00E2Uxt080300000; Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:01:42 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=dSRAhnybAAAA:8 a=_fUlUN7SGtgEVv-ywGEA:9 a=RJkTXe3dtYupquXqCn8A:7 a=-_CuFaygpYsBooWEzjTP_h2APWEA:4 a=O58u2wXj750A:10 a=wk6s2zzMB60A:10 a=vNGxQsTWjH8A:10 Message-ID: <4BD649516CDF4CE18041D66405E9F97E@WarrenPC> From: "K2ORS" To: Cc: References: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> In-Reply-To: <000401c83119$0c401990$3de4fc3e@g3kev> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:01:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16545 X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: LF: Re: Re: R: classs E Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : ? Mal, Why not post the schematic on the Lowfer forum? http://www.kc3ol.dynip.com/forums/index.php 73 Warren K2ORS ----- Original Message ----- From: "hamilton mal" To: Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2007 11:50 AM Subject: LF: Re: R: classs E > Hi Enrico > The cct diagram is too large for the reflector, so would have to go > direct. > It E pa is vy inter dependent on V/W/Q etc and pse refer to Tonne s/ware > V2.01 for design criteria. Mine is qrp for 500 and works fb and reliable. > No smoke etc hi > Pse listen for me on 502.5 khz and call me on 3533/7033 khz for a xband > QSO. > > 73 de Mal/G3KEV/IO9SH > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Enrico" > To: > Sent: Monday, November 26, 2007 7:52 PM > Subject: LF: R: classs E > > >> Hi Mal, >> can you please tell me what kind of PA are you using? Have you an > electrical >> scheme? >> Thank you an Bye. >> >> IW4CXL >> Enrico >> >> -----Messaggio originale----- >> Da: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org]Per conto di hamilton mal >> Inviato: domenica 18 novembre 2007 16.54 >> A: rsgb >> Oggetto: LF: classs E >> >> >> Hi all >> I carried out some analysis on my fet pa today to check the waveform for >> true class E. Monitoring the drain on a scope revealed that the waveform > was >> almost correct but needed a slight increase in capacity for C2 for an > almost >> perfect switch at 502.5 khz. Increasing/decreasing the voltage did not > make >> a big difference to the waveform, at the design voltage it was only > slightly >> better. >> Using a DL I altered the freq and found the perfect waveform at 535.9 >> khz, >> so I expect logically increasing the value of C2 would correct the >> anamoly >> at 502.5 khz. I have not altered it yet because I do not have a suitable >> capicator. >> I did observe some ripple on the waveform that is probably caused by feed >> through from the driver, it was more pronunced at a V lower than the > design >> voltage, but improved with a V increase. >> In spite of the above observations the PA performs well and seems very >> robust. >> The RF pwr out measurements using the DL or the Antenna do not vary, >> indicating that the antenna is well matched to 50 ohms via the atu at the >> base of the inv L. >> I thought the above observations might be interesting to would be class E >> constructors. >> Considering mine was built from junk box bits, including the 60 year old >> ceramic ex TU5 tuning unit coil it works very well. The fet is out of an >> old marine tx. >> Best dx to date VE1ZZ at 549 during ideal conditions last week. >> 73 de Mal/G3KEV >> >> >> >> >> >> > >