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FYI

I have removed personal email addresses and telephones #s of all=20
involved otherwise this is the full text of RAC's dictate about how=20
Canadian amateurs are required to be considered for authorization on 600m.

73 Scott
VE7TIL







-------- Original Message --------
Subject:    Experimental Developmental Licenses for 600-meters
Date:   Sat, 24 Jan 2009 12:19:42 -0500
From:   Bryan VE3QN

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Gentlemen,
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It has been some time since the last time we communicated on the subject=
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of the 500 kHz Development Licenses. This is an attempt to make up for=20
that and to give you some idea of where things stand.
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The issue has been how to stream proposals, such as those some of you=20
have submitted, through RAC and into IC in a form which IC can=20
expediently process into the Developmental Licenses IC have indicated=20
they are prepared to issue for experimental operation by radio amateurs=20
on 600 meters.
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The work on this issue is being generously worked through by Jim Dean,=20
VE3IQ, and Richard Ferch, VE3KI, working with Ren=E9 Guerette and Gary=20
Steckly of Industry Canada.
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At this point in time it seems likely that Industry Canada will accept=20
that the applications be forwarded to them using IC Form 2365 a copy of=20
which is attached for your information only. What is still being worked=20
on is how some of the requirements of the form might be modified or even=
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waived for the particular circumstances of these Developmental Licenses=20
and radio amateurs as applicants. It is important in crafting this that=20
the process as modified be agreeable to the regional Industry Canada=20
offices through which these applications will flow and not simply to the=
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IC officials with whom Jim and Rich are working here in Ottawa. This is=20
going to take a little more time to work through but we think we are close=
.
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It's important to realize that, reflecting the Government's redoubled=20
concern with transparency, this process will - unlike the earlier 135=20
kHz authorizations - more closely follow IC's rulebook. In this regard,=20
I'm taking the liberty of excerpting the following from a recent letter=20
from Ren=E9 Guerette, Director of IC's Amateur Radio Service Centre....=20
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The developmental licence applicants must adhere to the rules applicable=
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to commercial radio stations. Their amateur certification should serve=20
them well as operators but does not infer any other privileges.=20

Applicants are bound by the CPC 2-0-03 on tower consultation. If they=20
exceed the exemption limit in tower height of 15 meters or create other=20
non excluded situations, it will be at their own perils. The LUA may=20
wish to allow construction/erection without consultation if approached=20
but since the duration of these trials is over 2 years, temporary may=20
not be so temporary. This provision in the CPC is meant for temporary=20
emergency situations.

Antennae patterns and ERP calculations as per predictions seem quite=20
reasonable to me as antenna propagation characteristics at these=20
frequencies are difficult to assess. As you indicate, the efficiencies=20
of such antennae are more likely to be less than the model.

Licences must be renewed yearly. Rationale for renewal is required. This=
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too is assessed at the district level. However, I suggest that licensees=
=20
should forward their rationale with covering letter to the ARSC for=20
vetting and distribution to appropriate licensing office for renewal.=20
Since all members are participating in the same trial, I suspect the=20
rationale will be similar for most if the project is ongoing. A letter=20
from RAC might do the trick. =20

End of Excerpt.
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As you can see, it's much easier to be a radio amateur. We do think,=20
however, we are close to the finish line and it is our objective to have=
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this process as straightforward as the circumstances permit when we are=20
ready to go.
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One area where those of you who have submitted proposals can help is in=20
connection with the requirements for antenna pattern and gain data. It=20
seems likely that IC will accept data which RAC will supply based on=20
antenna modeling which we are hoping to do here. Those of you who have=20
submitted proposals could help now by submitting data, e.g.,could be as=20
simple as a description or a diagram, on the antennae you anticipate=20
using in your proposed 500 kHz operation.=20
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Thank you again for your willingness to participate in this and for your=
=20
patience. 73,
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Best Regards,
=20
Bryan
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Bryan Rawlings   VE3QN / VE2QNN
Radio Amateurs of/du Canada, Inc.


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