Return-Path: Received: from rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (rly-mb02.mail.aol.com [172.21.131.155]) by air-mb04.mail.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMB041-cee4a19338d13b; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:46:26 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mb02.mx.aol.com (v123.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMB022-cee4a19338d13b; Sun, 24 May 2009 07:46:24 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1M8C9C-0007gX-3r for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 12:45:46 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1M8C9B-0007gO-O5 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 12:45:45 +0100 Received: from c2beaomr01.btconnect.com ([213.123.26.179]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1M8C98-0007jM-AX for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 12:45:44 +0100 Received: from [192.168.1.64] (host86-142-69-246.range86-142.btcentralplus.com [86.142.69.246]) by c2beaomr01.btconnect.com (MOS 3.8.6-GA) with ESMTP id DNG22710; Sun, 24 May 2009 12:45:33 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <4A193360.9010508@btconnect.com> Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 12:45:36 +0100 From: Richard Newstead User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.21 (Windows/20090302) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4A181EEC.5050600@btconnect.com> <9670125E608A4D63AE541048B2177A02@JimPC> <001a01c9dc5e$b6bbb040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> In-Reply-To: <001a01c9dc5e$b6bbb040$0301a8c0@mal769a60aa920> X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr01.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0208.4A19335D.02F5,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=192.168.1.64, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.7.1/2008-09-02 X-Junkmail-IWF: false X-Karma: unknown: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: First Portable Trip Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) mal hamilton wrote: > Jim > I did not say an inv L virtually lying on the ground as in Richards > case(1 METRE ABOVE GROUND), this is more like a beverage antenna. This is all very interesting. I have spent an hour in a darkened room contemplating suitable antennas (well not quite). Comments from experts welcome: 1) T antenna. Am I right in thinking that in the classical T configuration, the horizontal part of the aerial is only there to add capacity - i.e. it makes no contribution to the groundwave? If so, I assume that I can use very thin wire for the T? 2) In the more likely configuration with "horizontal" wires actually acting as an inverted V can I still use very thin wire without reducing performance? 3) Is there any benefit to be gained by having an inductor at the top of the vertical section of the T? If so, will the loss of the inductor be relevant if the part of the antenna above it (the T wires) don't contribute to useful radiation? 73 Richard G3CWI