Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.77]) by air-ma01.mail.aol.com (v129.10) with ESMTP id MAILINMA012-b4f04db697552b9; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:58:45 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mc05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id EAE62380000C3; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 05:58:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1QEf1D-0000OP-Dk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:19 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1QEf1C-0000OG-Je for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:18 +0100 Received: from nm14-vm0.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.250]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1QEf1C-0007CQ-Ao for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:18 +0100 Received: from [217.146.183.209] by nm14.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 09:57:12 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.173] by tm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 09:57:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1014.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 26 Apr 2011 09:57:12 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 784056.81026.bm@omp1014.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 44735 invoked by uid 60001); 26 Apr 2011 09:57:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1303811832; bh=l4ohpfNLdqiCktZBB71fzo/JUBLbEHflfT5Y7kxkjds=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=B1VAoKDajrbsnmaz0A1qE7gn9sLhjHx9/Fs1SFWMqe6oTSxhsMcmqDojyZIAAnlLCqJWTLmCh9s3ViqzpIpSFMWAP2cNlRHIUy2br48QZO3UPfX6wRqES9zNLv+kcxtbr0I4BsaUo8AQZOQeyJrHEtLoOEOU7O8nRnTwED3sWew= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=lMjxmKdRHtwqd+MGw4dWTV5yZyZ1FjyIyPifdP1s2ceJblHCDjWPlWsNQ0F4cd/rNyjIHw6yvshx/7PTn2kyBmJxgUtz/BUNQQxEfC7L6CE+Pz4GRgpNYZwQol3UEXc/D8SxnqcIiL4a50LOtRJZVZ3+hejYJ1accJiHeVZXv/8=; Message-ID: <498303.42730.qm@web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: cc45niIVM1lzrCJlCZ0CroWSssolKTRpLL3aSzaPxvn.YUB HCIkDLNz5p_1PEXyFfOXvmjoHkj1_eTP5WmaamgajF1MLwvzA3m3zyYj1_tS BeZ8nmICB5jVzYabzqvD7tBWWJA0ZI_19F_alRNysRcmcDuGmxFBukDY4XKq 4MiH6KXnx8lHhPpDy6SGvdUNG2Oqr.bmFRQmmTaGhRguJzVOdidMFb84xutf 2vxZ0_IitE41BuKnjlEe45ZYdrJRuQzEXN.2GCAYOITkDNhNyOIjQH4q8SXF qB5HdXadDBvvOG0zu8c7pPSJNTjySGTEKdVn7jQsvKB2lNXZA5Fg14Nw8guN ACk_pfpfo8py.S8k- Received: from [86.134.236.136] by web28107.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:12 BST X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/559 YahooMailWebService/0.8.110.299900 References: <003601cc03e2$3c605460$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Tue, 26 Apr 2011 10:57:12 +0100 (BST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: O/T 4m Trnsvr PLAYED OUT Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-723159336-1303811832=:42730" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=3.3 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d234.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d604d4db69753005d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --0-723159336-1303811832=:42730 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Roger Thanks for=A0the URL to the 4m transverter. I have=A0started to take inter= est in the=20 band again. I have always been on FM. I have built several 4M converters= but=20 never had luck with the TX side.=A0The=A0last project I had a go at was=A0= one in=20 RadCom a year back the Converter was all=A0Mosfet which worked really well= and I=20 still use it. The TX side however was not a sucess mainly I think down to= the=20 mixer which was a diode double balanced design that I just could get to wo= rk. So I may try the TX part of your circuit..... I hope you are prepared to= answer=20 questions later ... hee:-)) =A073 es GL Pete M0FMT IO91UX=20 ________________________________ From: Roger Lapthorn To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 9:10:44 Subject: Re: LF: PLAYED OUT Hi Mal. G3XIZ continues to improve his station and has been copied at decent range= on=20 DFCW this weekend. Others, like me, are finding out more and more about=20 through-the-ground VLF communications and are regularly copying UK and Eur= opean=20 stations on 8.97kHz by radiated DX. You've only to look on the news page= of the=20 Sub 9kHz Amateur Radio website to see just how much is going on on VLF. Se= e=20 https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/news=20 Certainly 10m has been very good lately, with WSPR reports from around the= =20 planet with my 5W (or less) and a small wire halo antenna. 6m and 4m Es DX= is=20 also about to start and I'm hoping for some QRP DX on 4m with my homebrew= =20 transverter. See http://sites.google.com/site/g3xbmqrp/Home/4m_transverter= . In my view it is not either/or but all and more.=A0=20 Good luck on whichever end of the spectrum you experiment Mal. 73s Roger G3XBM On 26 April 2011 08:19, mal hamilton wrote: Activity very poor over the easter weekend on VLF/LF/MF whereas all the ot= her=20 amateur bands were buzzing and some long haul acty on 10 metres.=20 >Maybe it is time to abandon the lower frequencies and concentrate on the= higher=20 >end like 10, 6 and 4 metres. >The results on VLF es LF es MF currently do not justify the effort, VLF= acty=20 >from the UK especially poor=A0in spite of=A0several stations being permit= ted to=20 >operate on the 9 khz band. >Time for a change!! >de G3KEV > --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk http://www.youtube.com/user/g3xbm https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ --0-723159336-1303811832=:42730 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Roger
 
Thanks for the URL to the 4m transverter. I have started to= take interest in the band again. I have always been on FM. I have built= several 4M converters but never had luck with the TX side. The = last project I had a go at was one in RadCom a year back the Converte= r was all Mosfet which worked really well and I still use it. The TX= side however was not a sucess mainly I think down to the mixer which was= a diode double balanced design that I just could get to work.
So I may try the TX part of your circuit..... I hope you are prepared= to answer questions later ... hee:-))
 
73 es GL Pete M0FMT= IO91UX=20

=

From: Roger Lapthorn <r= ogerlapthorn@gmail.com>
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Sent: Tue, 26 April, 2011 9:10:44
Subject: Re: LF: PLAYED OUT

Hi Mal.=

G3XIZ continues to improve his station and has been copied at dece= nt range on DFCW this weekend. Others, like me, are finding out more and= more about through-the-ground VLF communications and are regularly copyin= g UK and European stations on 8.97kHz by radiated DX. You've only to look= on the news page of the Sub 9kHz Amateur Radio website to see just how mu= ch is going on on VLF. See https://sites.google.com/site/sub9k= hz/news

Certainly 10m has been very good lately, with WSPR rep= orts from around the planet with my 5W (or less) and a small wire halo antenna. 6m and 4m Es= DX is also about to start and I'm hoping for some QRP DX on 4m with my ho= mebrew transverter. See http://sites.google.com= /site/g3xbmqrp/Home/4m_transverter.

In my view it is not either= /or but all and more. 

Good luck on whichever end of the spec= trum you experiment Mal.

73s
Roger G3XBM



On 26 April 2011 08:19, mal hamilton <g3kevmal@talktalk.net&g= t; wrote:
Activity very poor over the easter weekend on VLF/= LF/MF whereas all the other amateur bands were buzzing and some long haul= acty on 10 metres.
Maybe it is time to abandon the lower frequencies= and concentrate on the higher end like 10, 6 and 4 metres.
The results on VLF es LF es MF currently do not ju= stify the effort, VLF acty from the UK especially poor in spite of&nb= sp;several stations being permitted to operate on the 9 khz band.
Time for a change!!
de G3KEV
 



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