Return-Path: Received: from rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (rly-mf05.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.175]) by air-mf02.mail.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILINMF021-95f48292ac11f3; Tue, 13 May 2008 01:44:53 -0400 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-mf05.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMF055-95f48292ac11f3; Tue, 13 May 2008 01:44:37 -0400 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JvnIq-0000XM-CT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 06:43:56 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JvnIp-0000XD-OA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 06:43:55 +0100 Received: from smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.66]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JvnIm-0007LM-BA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 May 2008 06:43:55 +0100 Received: (qmail 51795 invoked from network); 13 May 2008 05:43:42 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@86.133.165.156 with login) by smtp806.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 13 May 2008 05:43:42 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: mx5YVocVM1kzH.aYpZvBkPODWM4kzJ.6WqyzyhJLN9ShFfz0ao4ddmbB1kxfywRpI8PKstSl13HBV3CThf79d0MX06.HCSpEM8nwZI_CyiyS8D_AAxBBk6TsgncVz_QGvkD2GPKt2uI6lHdtnHNHhIua X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Tue, 13 May 2008 06:43:43 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <4829389F.15162.F0CC8@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <20080512224642.44d27712@lurcher.twatt.local> References: <02e301c8b462$074116c0$0301a8c0@g3kev>, <20080512224642.44d27712@lurcher.twatt.local> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Karma: 0: X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: BEACON HELL Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n On 12 May 2008 at 22:46, John Pumford-Green GM4SLV wrote: > Normal amateur bands are the place for radio amateurs to have normal CW > QSOs. > > 500 is not a normal amateur band and you should expect operations to be > conducted in ways that may offend your narrow definition of how to > operate. > Oh dear dear dear...... Personally, while getting very bored with these petty arguments, beacons do nothing for me at all and there are plenty of other 500kHz operators who like me DO like normal QSOs. Quite a lot of those were active in the early days (and also of 136kHz) who are never heard these days as they have got disillusioned. There is a place for both beacons and normal CW QSOs (and data modes as well) on both these bands and to say otherwise is total nonsense. I was going to try and sort out the matching of my 500kHz vertical this week and get back on the band. I have now lost that enthusiasm, seeing as it appears there will be nobody for me to work anyway. Sorry to see you go John, but really these sorts of arguments do little to help. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com