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Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2008 07:38:29 +0000
From: David Towers <david.towers@ntlworld.com>
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Subject: Re: LF: CW Skimmer
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mal wrote:

 > The average radio amateur today is an appliance operator and probably
 > never heard about morse code or a soldering iron. Avoid them both!!
 > G3KEV

Hi Mal
how can you know when to avoid a licenced radio amateur, how do you 
describe "average"?
You do not "see" them but only have a call-sign to go by.
What are your terms of reference to make such a statement?

  Many of us suffered strokes or worse during our amateur career and 
thus became unable to remember and use CW well enough to "pass a test", 
and thus were barred from the HF bands.

Fortunately this has been corrected and we "so called" Class B licencees 
could enjoy a taste of the HF bands denied to us, not because of lack of 
ability but due to impairments.
Despite being visually impaired now from stroke induced brain damage, I 
can still use a soldering iron and construct-takes more time and more 
care, but I get there!

CW retention and use is no longer a possibility though!

I operate without causing interference to others and know how to and am 
able to  construct and repair test equipment and modern transceivers.

Does this make me a leper in your eyes?

It matters not to me whether you Mal, or your ilk, avoids me when I 
eventually get onto LF bands, but  I would welcome a more understanding 
attitude from you/them, and less bigoted comments concerning those not 
blessed with your/their abilities.
Perhaps some died in the wool CW operators should look outside of their 
box before using voice or keyboard and passing judgement!
dave
G8SZX  Glenfield Leicester IO92jp
webpage
www.g8szx.mediumwaveradio.org



>  
> 
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* G4gvw@aol.com <mailto:G4gvw@aol.com>
>     *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>     <mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>     *Sent:* Friday, February 15, 2008 11:23 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: LF: CW Skimmer
> 
>     Actualy I do not agree with that statement. It is only in the
>     present state of the art that you might say that a machine cannot
>     read poorly sent morse. It is not so many years ago that the present
>     state of the art was considered beyond the reach of machines!
>      
>     It is surely not beyond the wit of man to imagine that a future
>     generation of machines and their programmes (I hesitate to use the
>     word software deliberately) might not only decode a data stream
>     called "morse" but actually interpret its "meaning" using rules
>     based on language, useage and machine-based artificial intelligence!
>      
>     In the same way that the modern radio amateur has become an operator
>     of "black boxes" who is to say that the next generation of Black
>     Boxes will not become an operator of radio amateurs?
>      
>     Some would say that this is alraeady the case!
>      
>      
>      
>      
>     73 de Pat G4GVW es gd dx
>     Qth near Felixstowe, UK
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