Return-Path: Received: from rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (rly-yb06.mail.aol.com [172.18.205.138]) by air-yb02.mail.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILINYB21-69b47adfba92a6; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:15:13 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-yb06.mx.aol.com (v121.4) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINYB69-69b47adfba92a6; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 14:14:51 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1JNv9l-0005sv-94 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:14:33 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1JNv9k-0005sm-Nt for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:14:32 +0000 Received: from pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net ([81.228.11.159]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1JNv9g-0007Dm-PQ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Feb 2008 19:14:32 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (81.232.131.201) by pne-smtpout2-sn1.fre.skanova.net (7.3.129) (authenticated as u33233109) id 47A77FC4001B2D6A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 9 Feb 2008 20:14:18 +0100 Message-ID: <47ADFB8F.5050001@telia.com> Date: Sat, 09 Feb 2008 20:14:23 +0100 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.9 (Windows/20071031) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001501c8690d$0e706f40$410d7ad5@w4o8m9> <001501c869db$a296b840$97188351@w4o8m9> <000d01c86aa8$96510040$ae197ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <000d01c86aa8$96510040$ae197ad5@w4o8m9> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Re: M0BMU WOLF Beacon Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_helo : n X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: listenair ; SPF_822_from : n X-Mailer: Unknown (No Version) Dear Jim, LF group, yes, all Wolf GUI settings were left at "factory default" except the speed which was changed to Wolf 20. Your signal was strong, clearly visible in the waterfall (well, with some imagination...) but I was really surprised to see correct "print" already on line 1! I had expected to go through a lot of tweaking and calibration before getting any copy at all, if any... I played a little with Stewart's command line version a few years ago - DL4YHF's real-time Wolf GUI is really a giant step forward in "user friendlyness" :-) Your guess about sampling rate is absolutely correct. There is only one clock involved - the 80MHz (TC?)XO in the receiver hardware (the ADC clock). Perseus output sampling rate is fixed at 31250Hz (in the current beta release). This sampling rate is re-sampled to a "standard" rate by Windows when listening through the soundcard, and by the VAC software (Virtual Audio Cable) when routing the signal to other programs such as Wolf. Unfortunately, the VAC software seems to use a quite sloppy algorithm for resampling, probably to reduce the CPU load. At some output sampling rates, there are distorsion products that look like some kind of "in-band aliasing" and these are not more than 40dB down or so :-( Maybe this percent of THD goes unnoticed by "normal" VAC users who listen to mainsream music (which is usually 100% distorsion anyway ;-) ) Hopefully, a future release of the Perseus software itself will include a good "VAC mechanism" and appear as a "Recording Device" with selectable standard sampling rates in the Windows Control Panel... Thanks for the signal! 73 Johan SM6LKM ---- James Moritz wrote: > Thanks to SM6LKM for the reception report - the usual problem people have > receiving WOLF is getting the correct calibration of audio sample rate and > receiver frequency offset set up. But I was interested to see Johan has > used nominal settings, and it looks like these are just right. I guess if > you are using an SDR system with a "virtual" sound card feeding data to the > WOLF decoder, the sampling clock in the SDR defines both the receive > frequency and the "audio" sample rate. So in this case there will only be > one unknown requiring calibration , which could be done using any convenient > carrier, making life much simpler.