X-GM-THRID: 1241131072477485154 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs486615hue; Thu, 5 Jul 2007 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.205.7 with SMTP id c7mr4642212hug.1183637338434; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id k5si4956964nfd.2007.07.05.05.08.54; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 05:08:58 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I6Q4y-0002Su-F0 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:05:00 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I6Q4y-0002Sl-2M for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:05:00 +0100 Received: from smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.70]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I6Q4v-0006Ev-Gv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:05:00 +0100 Received: (qmail 1924 invoked from network); 5 Jul 2007 12:04:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.157.212.26 with login) by smtp810.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 5 Jul 2007 12:04:51 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: aBsQyFwVM1lR94cmzziFgdQ9B26HcSU_jQ_ECquuX9hScKG1nru03DlyymeAk5tn1Jftp5sFVMURfRdn9jX868KgDoxoLZs7ckpZUsSEKlJ9pBFs From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2007 13:04:51 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <468CEC73.20869.170FE86@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <001701c7bef6$c8bcd800$0300a8c0@lark> References: <001701c7bef6$c8bcd800$0300a8c0@lark> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: QRSS Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1530 On 5 Jul 2007 at 12:22, Alan Melia wrote: > Whilst I apprciate that the "constant" nature of QRSS can be a > problem, I am afraid there are some misconceptions about its use. It > should NOT be NECESSARY to send a morse call at "normal" speeds. This > may be advisable in some cases, in the way of making normal qsos, but > it is no more "necessary" than a 30wpm operator needing to send his ID > at 5wpm. The mode is actually morse and 3sec dot can be read audibly > with a little practice. It became unnecessary for RTTY operators to > send a morse ID many years ago (this was anyway for the benefit of the > RIS officers, not other amateurs), and this archaic regulation is even > less necessary now we have fairly common usage of these modes and > common PC usage within many stations. If you dont want to use a PC in > your station that is fair but it is sufficient surely to know that the > mode exists, it has been around a long time at LF. Well I guess we will have to agree to disagree.... There are a lot of casual listeners to 500kHz who will not be aware of QRSS. Probably far more than ever listened to 136kHz. Whatever you say they are not familiar with QRSS or why people use it. As far as they are concerned they just hear lots of people 'tuning up', and very few of us have the patience to listen to 3s dot QRSS just to identify who it is. CW id is essential, and I would suggest 5wpm is far too slow - 15-20wpm is optimum and does not interrupt your QRSS flow too much. You may have guessed I am not an enthusiast for this mode.... 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com