X-GM-THRID: 1239537493009243986 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.10 with SMTP id u10cs287637hue; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.127.14 with SMTP id z14mr10459356buc.1182145669181; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id 34si3050192nfu.2007.06.17.22.47.42; Sun, 17 Jun 2007 22:47:49 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1I0A2f-0002KV-42 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:44:45 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1I0A2e-0002KM-F0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:44:44 +0100 Received: from smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com ([217.146.188.62]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1I0A2d-00026v-FA for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:44:44 +0100 Received: (qmail 35925 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2007 05:43:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO Dave) (dsergeant@btinternet.com@81.157.220.68 with login) by smtp802.mail.ird.yahoo.com with SMTP; 18 Jun 2007 05:43:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: qqzECSMVM1lAwxQMmaJnT6qLv76W_qMaWYxdpFkIP6OBdhtSo6Ea0Gqo18qhFenotKK.kXKNxoKcOsZR0ZAXyyA- From: "Dave Sergeant" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon, 18 Jun 2007 06:43:49 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <467629A5.11691.1814DB@dave.davesergeant.com> In-reply-to: <002101c7b124$7d195660$0300a8c0@lark> References: <002101c7b124$7d195660$0300a8c0@lark> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.41) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Mike's "ADSL problem" Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1619 On 17 Jun 2007 at 22:14, Alan Melia wrote: > I have neighbours either side with broadband and I am not aware of any > problems on 500k, but what I did notice was a horrendous noise in the > middle of the band when the video recorder was sitting on timed record > and the TV was switched to AV. I often do this to avoid missing > programs or missing them due to a phone call in the middle. It would > seem that whilst not receiving a signal, but producing a raster (blank > screen with an "AV" legend) there is a large comb of frequencies at > about 502. I am guessing that without a signal to lock it, the line > oscillator free-runs a little above 15.625kHz. Putting my TV on > standby or OFF kills the noise. Alan, those sorts of problems are certainly due to dodgey switch mode psus in equipment and fairly common. You and Mike should be looking in that direction and not blaming ADSL. I would not expect problems from ADSL as it is a balanced system and should not radiate very far at all. You would only get any radiation if there is a dodgey telephone connection somewhere, say in the overhead lines, where the twin pairs have been accidentally split between two separate pairs so the two lines do not run parallel - very rare but has been known to happen. It most certainly will not be a dodgey ADSL filter as the broadband signal is not filtered at all in those, only the telephone side is filtered (and I doubt whether they ever fail despite all the suggestions to change them when you have a fault, as passive devices there is nothing inside them to fail...). So look very seriously at those smpsu's, wallwarts etc. 73 Dave G3YMC http://www.davesergeant.com