X-GM-THRID: 1238777298935296951 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.172.11 with SMTP id u11cs262401hue; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 07:04:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.82.175.17 with SMTP id x17mr7194201bue.1181397881977; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id h1si3641480nfh.2007.06.09.07.04.39; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 07:04:41 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Hx1VH-0006Oq-Pq for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:01:19 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Hx1VH-0006Oh-CH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:01:19 +0100 Received: from pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net ([81.228.8.83]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Hx1VG-0001SX-GZ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:01:19 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (62.20.250.132) by pne-smtpout1-sn2.hy.skanova.net (7.2.075) (authenticated as u33233109) id 4656A990003C600F for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 9 Jun 2007 15:57:28 +0200 Message-ID: <466AB1CB.2060907@telia.com> Date: Sat, 09 Jun 2007 15:57:31 +0200 From: "Johan H. Bodin" User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.0 (Windows/20070326) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <000901c7aa26$ecfaff60$82147ad5@w4o8m9> <000d01c7aa8c$6d692860$7c0d7ad5@w4o8m9> In-Reply-To: <000d01c7aa8c$6d692860$7c0d7ad5@w4o8m9> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: 136kHz tests - M0BMU ERP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 1379 Dear Jim, LFers, James Moritz wrote: > 10m high top section [...] > centre of the antenna span raised to 14m [...] > increases the overall efficiency by a factor of 4 [...] A very interesting experiment Jim! I find it amazing that such a small increase in average height can make such a dramatic improvement in efficiency! Were there any trees near the center of the topload wire? > This could be interpreted as the effective height of the antenna being > reduced by the screening effect of the surrounding trees, buildings etc. Yes, but I suspect that the improvement also may have something to do with "Laurie's footprint theory" even if the horizontal length is not changed. My rough guess is that most of the electric field between the topload and the ground, and hence the displacement current, is confined in a cone (well, roughly) of a certain angle (neglecting trees and other vertical objects in the vicinity...). When the topload is raised, and if everything scales nicely, the area of the base of the cone increases with the square of topload height. A larger "pickup area" on the ground means more "grass straws in parallel" :-) 73 Johan SM6LKM