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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, Bob, all, just wondering if it makes much sense if everyone was transmitting at the same time. This may work out well during a dedicated "WSPR night" with alternate slots, but not so well with QRSS or DFCW beacons, as none of us can simultaneously receive and transmit on the same band. Who's listening then? 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This may work out well during a dedicated "WSPR night" = with alternate slots, but not so well with QRSS or DFCW beacons, as none = of us can simultaneously receive and transmit on the same band. Who's = listening then? In my opinion, it would be better if as many as possible Europeans (not = only Germans) would transmit during one night, and all available = listeners (Jay and Dex very much appreciated, who else?) would be = watching and uploading grabs from the other side. The next night we swap = roles, many beacons from America and grabbers in Europe. Just my five cents... shoot it down if you want! Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Bob Raide=20 Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:28 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: LF tonite Stefan; I was waiting to see what you were planning for tonight. You start much = earlier there of course and around 2300 I be back home. I am tuned up = on 137 band and will see what you are doing at that time and if still on = WSPR 15 I will fire up alternate quarter hours as usual or go to QRSS60 = if you changed-Bob =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:21:13 +0100 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: LF tonite Hi Bob, LF,=20 Bob, what are you planniung for tonite? What is the plan? :-) Just thought about some WSPR-15 but DFCW-90 just gives better results = (valid detections) than WSPR. Due to the public database, WSPR is more = popular though, for some OMs. So it all has it's advantage... Think i'll start with WSPR now and may switch back to DGCW later. 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0033_01CF148E.ABA2F9D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Stefan, Bob, all,
 
just wondering if it makes much sense = if everyone=20 was transmitting at the same time. This may work out well during a=20 dedicated "WSPR night" with alternate slots, but not so well with QRSS = or DFCW=20 beacons, as none of us can simultaneously receive and transmit on = the same=20 band. Who's listening then?
 
In my opinion, it would be better = if as many=20 as possible Europeans (not only Germans) would transmit during one = night,=20 and all available listeners (Jay and Dex very much = appreciated, who=20 else?) would be watching and uploading grabs from the other side. The = next night=20 we swap roles, many beacons from America and grabbers in=20 Europe.
 
Just my five cents... shoot it down if = you=20 want!
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Bob Raide
Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 7:28 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: RE: LF: LF tonite

Stefan;
I was waiting to see what you were planning = for=20 tonight.  You start much earlier there of course and around 2300 I = be back=20 home.  I am tuned up on 137 band and will see what you are doing at = that=20 time and if still on WSPR 15 I will fire up alternate quarter hours as = usual or=20 go to QRSS60 if you changed-Bob
 

Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 19:21:13 +0100
From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup= .uni-heidelberg.de
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: LF: LF tonite

Hi Bob, = LF,=20

Bob, what are you planniung for tonite? What is the plan? = :-)
Just=20 thought about some WSPR-15 but DFCW-90 just gives better results (valid=20 detections) than WSPR. Due to the public database, WSPR is more popular = though,=20 for some OMs. So it all has it's advantage...
Think i'll start with = WSPR now=20 and may switch back to DGCW later.

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

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