Return-Path: Received: from mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.96.23]) by air-mc07.mail.aol.com (v129.4) with ESMTP id MAILINMC074-a97e4d46f914388; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:01:56 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 50B27380000A2; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 13:01:53 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Pjy3j-0008Oj-Vi for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:01:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Pjy3j-0008Oa-8D for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:01:03 +0000 Received: from nm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.183.219]) by relay1.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1Pjy3j-00055L-6G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:01:03 +0000 Received: from [217.146.183.211] by nm2.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2011 18:00:57 -0000 Received: from [217.146.183.161] by tm4.bullet.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2011 18:00:57 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 31 Jan 2011 18:00:54 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 284906.58656.bm@omp1002.mail.ukl.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 3424 invoked by uid 60001); 31 Jan 2011 18:00:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1296496854; bh=uVVJIM8N/BtBu4kzAPey+ReKeQtOUhRh2PVEK2/WOX4=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=kaf3WjUAcKP+lJscXX5p/RFR84k5wA1YyfW3yg2mI7ZKATalhHYmtnX6He/K8DHvecAyI2saVsUxI4rCKMH7yt66o6PrwL++jHJbafrO853q7bz/ZV79dkpUFbq0eicgipiNrE/+pLLIMCtnpeWgazzHlcFKYMYK97ahQtcUslI= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:References:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=SipUVyODo64BUQlNb+Qg8IchmzljwpfDLHmGsiUu7OThqvRrdW66x8L3DRdtRQpz/6e/xI1s4pShYWtV9Sa4PcobxRnye3WQcJogVedFruu8+gj9XnCwn+v480Pvaaw1sw1u9e184E65geYB4qtcfn3vnVUk/HuRY/3nHQaFY5w=; Message-ID: <46199.3417.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: lCjNZ9YVM1mIyaZ2fGgDz02I84ZUM_Oa9Sbn76CtI38qpYQ IvImWW5Wa_DjS5Dwtn2XoGHX5ZuT0FDcZ72q3QieL0Ly8ElV0LEtElnazybi YCbALKyKh8AR6Cv.i0qesTIy2AoHZDpjDDOW2Vz8WqHE2SLqmWBiz0Z.4uFH sURcCrXr9Xhs0wLZCRduH7gH4NCoUTV7co9SyJgZH.BVWDVWcoWX.H_6hQny 3_Cbnc.vNTwMSrLXUgaf9jKgs0nSuY6earUvsHX.jcXIVEAbCSI6pspF25mX d9dE3jePLUZIQOAOdxgsn7LUgGyGBrq0RG.gKKx4- Received: from [86.137.241.0] by web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:00:53 GMT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/555 YahooMailWebService/0.8.107.285259 References: <85896.7619.qm@web28106.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> <000d01cbc14c$ea593060$0401a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> <4D46CE2C.8030206@o2.ie> Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2011 18:00:53 +0000 (GMT) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <4D46CE2C.8030206@o2.ie> MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1496407758-1296496853=:3417" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-m254.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60174d46f911302b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 --0-1496407758-1296496853=:3417 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all Forget all vernacular World Service Broadcasts. What the world needs right= now=20 is Radio Caroline. She is the British secret weapon of=A0mass enjoyment!= Rocking=20 gently and anchor up the Barking Creek (well Tilbury in Essex actually) ju= st=20 waiting for the day when she can once again=A0blast those nasties with 50,= 000Watts=20 of M/F from an RCA BTA-50H Ampliphase=A0modulated=A0 TX with highly compre= ssed AM=20 ... Rock and Roll .=A0 http://www.radiocaroline.co.uk/#home.html Arr those were the days....... mmmmm =A073 es GL petefmt=20 ________________________________ From: Tony To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 14:58:52 Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave On 31/01/2011 13:43, mal hamilton wrote: > =A3140 per licence to BBC and a criminal offence if it is not paid if yo= u have > a TV > G3KEV > Not so Mal, it is only a criminal offence if you watch "live" TV. It's no longer an offence to have a TV set to play games or watch BBC=20 iplayer. It still is here in Ireland though. 73, Tony, EI8JK. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Warren Ziegler" > To: > Sent: Monday, January 31, 2011 12:50 PM > Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave > > > John, Pete, > >=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 I'll keep it brief since we are getting further= off-topic. > I have two thoughts on the end of the BBC World Service on Shortwave: > > 1) The reliance on the Internet for program distribution is worrisome. > One only need look at Egypt where the Internet is shut down, or China > where it is censored. > > 2) The BBC World Service gives the U.K. considerable stature in the > World, in other words the U.K. is a small country with a big voice and > international role. Elimination of the World Service will make the > U.K. just another small, non-descript country in the EU. > > 73 Warren K2ORS > > > > On Mon, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:20 AM, M0FMT=A0 wrote: >> Hi Warren >> >> My immediate response is that if you like it that much why not pay Engl= ish >> tax to help maintain it. >> >> However the BBC world service, the Government mouth-piece, is currently >> funded by direct taxation which is probable more equitable than the new > plan >> which is to fund it out of the compulsory so called Licence Fee, collec= ted >> under threat of imprisonment, which is really a tax on a tax i.e. paid= out >> of taxed income. >> >> This is the dark side of English culture. >> >> 73 es GL petefmt >> >> ________________________________ >> From: Warren Ziegler >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 5:15:48 >> Subject: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave >> >> Sad day... >> > http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-respo= nse >> Guess I'll have to rely on the 198 longwave transmissions. >> >> -- >> 73 Warren K2ORS >> WD2XGJ >> WD2XSH/23 >> WE2XEB/2 >> WE2XGR/1 >> >> >> > > > -- > 73 Warren K2ORS > WD2XGJ > WD2XSH/23 > WE2XEB/2 > WE2XGR/1 > > > > > =20 --0-1496407758-1296496853=:3417 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi all
 
Forget all vernacular World Service Broadcasts. What the world needs= right now is Radio Caroline. She is the British secret weapon of mas= s enjoyment! Rocking gently and anchor up the Barking Creek (well Tilbury= in Essex actually) just waiting for the day when she can once again = blast those nasties with 50,000Watts of M/F from an RCA BTA-50H Ampliphase=  modulated  TX with highly compressed AM ... = Rock and Roll . 
 
 
Arr those were the days....... mmmmm
 
73 es GL petefmt= =20


=
From: Tony <ei8jk@o2.ie= >
To: rsgb_lf_group@= blacksheep.org
Sent: Mo= n, 31 January, 2011 14:58:52
Subje= ct: Re: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwave

On 31/01/2011 13:43, mal hamilton wrote:
> =A3140 per licenc= e to BBC and a criminal offence if it is not paid if you have
> a TV=
> G3KEV
>

Not so Mal, it is only a criminal offence if= you watch "live" TV.
It's no longer an offence to have a TV set to pla= y games or watch BBC
iplayer.

It still is here in Ireland thoug= h.

73, Tony, EI8JK.


> ----- Original Message -----> From: "Warren Ziegler"<wd2xgj@gmail.com>
> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent:= Monday, January 31, 2011 12:50 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: OT End of the= BBC World Service on Shortwave
>
>
> John, Pete,
>= ;
>            I'll keep it brief sinc= e we are getting further off-topic.
> I have two thoughts on the end= of the BBC World Service on Shortwave:
>
> 1) The reliance on= the Internet for program distribution is worrisome.
> One only need= look at Egypt where the Internet is shut down, or China
> where it= is censored.
>
> 2) The BBC World Service gives the U.K. cons= iderable stature in the
> World, in other words the U.K. is a small= country with a big voice and
> international role. Elimination of= the World Service will make the
> U.K. just another small, non-desc= ript country in the EU.
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>
>
>
> On Mo= n, Jan 31, 2011 at 5:20 AM, M0FMT<m0fmt@yahoo.co.uk>  wrot= e:
>> Hi Warren
>>
>> My immediate response is= that if you like it that much why not pay English
>> tax to help= maintain it.
>>
>> However the BBC world service, the= Government mouth-piece, is currently
>> funded by direct taxatio= n which is probable more equitable than the new
> plan
>>= which is to fund it out of the compulsory so called Licence Fee, collecte= d
>> under threat of imprisonment, which is really a tax on a tax= i.e. paid out
>> of taxed income.
>>
>> This= is the dark side of English culture.
>>
>> 73 es GL pet= efmt
>>
>> ________________________________
>>= From: Warren Ziegler<wd2xgj@gmail.com>
>> To: r= sgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Sent: Mon, 31 January, 2011 5:= 15:48
>> Subject: LF: OT End of the BBC World Service on Shortwav= e
>>
>> Sad day...
>>
> http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service= -cuts-response
>> Guess I'll have to rely on the 198 longwave= transmissions.
>>
>> --
>> 73 Warren K2ORS
= >> WD2XGJ
>> WD2XSH/23
>> WE2XEB/2
>> WE2= XGR/1
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
&g= t; 73 Warren K2ORS
> WD2XGJ
> WD2XSH/23
> WE2XEB/2
&g= t; WE2XGR/1
>
>
>
>
>


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