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(VPS 0642-4, 20/10/2006), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: -0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.339 Subject: Re: LF: Re. TA Last Night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5458 Hello Markus , Wolf and LF'rs , If I can allow myself , how I found best in SL against the sferics, it=20 is a fast AGC behind a narrow filter! to see my configuration at : http://jpmere.online.fr/Grabber/Setup/Setup.htm . Many Thank Wolf for=20 your very good software . 73's Jean-Pierre f1afj Wolf DL4YHF a =E9crit : > Hello Markus, > > Just a suggestion... > > Instead (or in addition to?) of the "old" noiseblanker (inside SL's=20 > "DSP" blackbox), try the noise-limiter in the FFT-based filter, with a=20 > small FFT size for the filter. I tried it a few weeks ago at the club=20 > and found it worked even better than the classic noiseblanker. The=20 > trick is to set the limiter values (in the FFT filter control panel)=20 > just a few dB's above your usual noise level. Then everything above=20 > that level will be cut off, before transforming the signal back into=20 > the time domain. Note that this must happen with a low FFT size (256=20 > points or less) to let it react fast enough for sferics. After this,=20 > the signal will be fed to the main spectrum analyser which of course=20 > runs with a larger FFT size (16384 points, plus decimation). > This "spectral limiter" also works nice for other kinds of local QRM=20 > which is "normally not there", and would otherwise spoil the=20 > spectrogram. Of course, when the noise is very strong, it will deafen=20 > the receiver. > If you like, I can search for some screen shots taken in dual-channel=20 > mode (with and without limiter+blanker). They must be somewhere on the=20 > club's "LF computer" ;-) > > Cheers, > Wolf . > > > MarkusVester@aol.com schrieb: >> Dear John and LF, >> >> yes my grabber seems to be plagued a lot. Most of the QRN is=20 >> currently emanating from the Mediterranan sea area. I believe the=20 >> unilateral directivity of the K9AY E-H-loops does help a lot for=20 >> Hartmurt and Jean-Pierre. However up to now my own attempts on=20 >> H-field reception have always resulted in decreased SNR due to all=20 >> sorts of local QRM. >> >> The QRN was probably emphasized a little by the increased dynamic=20 >> headroom which was required here to cope with the Budapest telegrams.=20 >> Apparently these have also affected the software noise blanker=20 >> performance, which I have tried to improve now by inserting a=20 >> bandpass filter before the trigger. >> >> Judging by the fat CFH trace last night, LF propagation looks quite=20 >> favorable in the aftermath of the recent period of geomagnetic=20 >> activity. On the 100 kHz monitor, all stations from the the Far East=20 >> Loran chains (including Minami Torishima island) were well visible=20 >> this evening. >> >> 73 and best wishes >> de Markus, DF6NM > > > > --=20 Visitez mon site radioamateur =E0 : http://jpmere.online.fr/ Analys=E9 avec AVAST Home =E9dition , garanti sans virus connu