X-GM-THRID: 1217679619828712055 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 1125b3d9d71d20a234d71ebffb0ddc1618a3754f Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.78.205.5 with SMTP id c5cs490395hug; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:14:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.66.224.19 with SMTP id w19mr1745785ugg; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.google.com with ESMTP id x33si958036ugc.2006.10.20.05.14.54; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 05:14:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1GatAl-00075b-3U for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:08:23 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1GatAk-00075S-DO for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:08:22 +0100 Received: from mout0.freenet.de ([194.97.50.131]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GatAg-0007vr-Eq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 13:08:22 +0100 Received: from [194.97.50.138] (helo=mx0.freenet.de) by mout0.freenet.de with esmtpa (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1GatAf-0001iv-R4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:08:17 +0200 Received: from p5486d9fb.dip.t-dialin.net ([84.134.217.251] helo=[192.168.0.22]) by mx0.freenet.de with esmtpa (ID dl4yhf@freenet.de) (Exim 4.62 #12) id 1GatAf-0002n2-Gk for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:08:17 +0200 Message-ID: <4538BC2E.2070306@freenet.de> Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 14:08:14 +0200 From: Wolf DL4YHF User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.7 (Windows/20060909) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <238.1feba4e4.326949a0@aol.com> In-Reply-To: <238.1feba4e4.326949a0@aol.com> X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.541 Subject: Re: LF: Re. TA Last Night Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5459 Hello Markus, Just a suggestion... Instead (or in addition to?) of the "old" noiseblanker (inside SL's "DSP" blackbox), try the noise-limiter in the FFT-based filter, with a small FFT size for the filter. I tried it a few weeks ago at the club and found it worked even better than the classic noiseblanker. The trick is to set the limiter values (in the FFT filter control panel) just a few dB's above your usual noise level. Then everything above that level will be cut off, before transforming the signal back into the time domain. Note that this must happen with a low FFT size (256 points or less) to let it react fast enough for sferics. After this, the signal will be fed to the main spectrum analyser which of course runs with a larger FFT size (16384 points, plus decimation). This "spectral limiter" also works nice for other kinds of local QRM which is "normally not there", and would otherwise spoil the spectrogram. Of course, when the noise is very strong, it will deafen the receiver. If you like, I can search for some screen shots taken in dual-channel mode (with and without limiter+blanker). They must be somewhere on the club's "LF computer" ;-) Cheers, Wolf . MarkusVester@aol.com schrieb: > Dear John and LF, > > yes my grabber seems to be plagued a lot. Most of the QRN is currently > emanating from the Mediterranan sea area. I believe the unilateral > directivity of the K9AY E-H-loops does help a lot for Hartmurt and > Jean-Pierre. However up to now my own attempts on H-field reception > have always resulted in decreased SNR due to all sorts of local QRM. > > The QRN was probably emphasized a little by the increased dynamic > headroom which was required here to cope with the Budapest telegrams. > Apparently these have also affected the software noise blanker > performance, which I have tried to improve now by inserting a bandpass > filter before the trigger. > > Judging by the fat CFH trace last night, LF propagation looks quite > favorable in the aftermath of the recent period of geomagnetic > activity. On the 100 kHz monitor, all stations from the the Far East > Loran chains (including Minami Torishima island) were well visible > this evening. > > 73 and best wishes > de Markus, DF6NM