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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see @@CONTACT_ADDRESS@@ for details. Content preview: Here's a summary of decodes from here last night. On average, SNR was significantly better than during the previous night. Unfortunately I had forgotten to activate data saves at DL0AO so these ar [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [74.6.135.124 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2 RBL: Average reputation (+2) [74.6.135.124 listed in wl.mailspike.net] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 01689d080f7c72ae346b011e9b322bfa Subject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_1263976_3335804.1544372786588" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.9 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_MOZILLA,HTML_50_60, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false ------=_Part_1263976_3335804.1544372786588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Here's a summary of decodes from here last night.=C2=A0On average, SNR was = significantly better than during the previous night. Unfortunately I had fo= rgotten=C2=A0to=C2=A0activate=C2=A0data saves at DL0AO so these are missing= .=20 EbNaut Decodes=C2=A02018-12-08/09 VO1NA 137477 Hz: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DF6NM start=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car=C2=A0 message 22:00 15.4 17.4=C2=A0 .VO1NA. 23:00 14.6 15.9 00:00=C2=A0 1.3=C2=A0 7.4 01:00=C2=A0 8.9 13.9 02:00 16.0 18.3=C2=A0 GN BOB! 03:00=C2=A0 4.2=C2=A0 8.8 04:00=C2=A0 7.0=C2=A0 8.9 05:00 13.2 15.9=C2=A0 -VO1NA- 06:00 11.7 14.6 07:00 10.9 13.8 08:00=C2=A0 1.3=C2=A0 0.8 K3RWR 137479 Hz: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DF6NM start=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car=C2=A0 message 22:00=C2=A0 3.4=C2=A0 4.5=C2=A0 GL_73 22:30=C2=A0 3.4=C2=A0 5.2 00:30=C2=A0 5.4=C2=A0 7.9=C2=A0 EB/N0 01:00=C2=A0 6.4=C2=A0 8.1 01:30=C2=A0 3.0=C2=A0 3.8 02:00=C2=A0 5.1=C2=A0 6.1 02:30=C2=A0 8.7=C2=A0 8.3=C2=A0 *RWR* 03:30=C2=A0 4.9=C2=A0 5.5 04:00=C2=A0 8.1=C2=A0 8.7 04:30=C2=A0 5.2=C2=A0 7.9 05:00=C2=A0 0.5=C2=A0 2.5 05:30=C2=A0 5.3=C2=A0 5.9 06:30=C2=A0 3.7=C2=A0 5.2 07:00=C2=A0 4.8=C2=A0 4.8 07:30=C2=A0 1.7=C2=A0 0.2 If you guys want to continue tonight I will try to run autodecoders=C2=A0on= both sites:=C2=A0 http://df6nm.darc.de/opds/ebnautresults.txt https://vlf.u01.de/LF/LFgrabber/ebnautresults.txt All the best, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung----- Von: jrusgrove@comcast.net An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Verschickt: So, 9. Dez 2018 1:50 Betreff: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut #yiv3678649795 body {margin:0.7em;}#yiv3678649795 body.yiv3678649795OECFntD= ef, #yiv3678649795 body.yiv3678649795OECFntDef div {font-family:Arial, Taho= ma, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt;}Rob=C2=A0Continued 'perf= ect' reception with CW ID.=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0Jay W1VD=C2=A0=C2=A0 ----- Original Message -----From: Rob Renoud Reply-= To: To: Sent: 1= 2/8/2018 4:17:50 PMSubject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNautLF EbNaut & Markus, There is a definite post sunset opening to Europe from the NA East Coast. I have modified my station to overlay a 10 minute CW ID (off-on CW modulati= on at 20 wpm) on the EbNaut message stream. =C2=A0Will be interested to see= what effect it has on decodes. =C2=A0Am still transmitting a 5 character t= ext message as before. Tnx es 73,Rob - K3RWR On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:57, Markus Vester wrote: Here are the Bavarian decodes from last night's sesseion. Eb/N0 values deri= ved from symbol error rate and carrier=C2=A0power were sometimes rather inc= onsistent so both are mentioned here. As expected, the quiet DL0AO site is = generally a few dB better than mine, decoding VO1NA consistently in every s= ingle slot. I was amazed by=C2=A0the early start from Canada. At this time of the year,= such northerly paths=C2=A0are apparently close enough to=C2=A0darkness=C2= =A0almost around the clock.=C2=A0My 100 kHz monitor shows Loran signals fro= m East China rolling in already=C2=A0around midday here. EbNaut Decodes 2018-12-07/08 VO1NA 137477 Hz: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DF6NM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 DL0AO start=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car 17:00=C2=A0 3.3=C2=A0 3.1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5.8=C2=A0 5.2=C2=A0 MARCONI 18:00=C2=A0 8.6=C2=A0 9.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 12.3 13.3 19:00=C2=A0 5.7=C2=A0 7.4=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.7=C2=A0 7.1 20:00=C2=A0 4.0=C2=A0 1.9=C2=A0=C2=A0 12.0=C2=A0 7.8 21:00=C2=A0 2.3=C2=A0 5.0=C2=A0=C2=A0 11.8=C2=A0 7.3 22:00=C2=A0 7.1=C2=A0 7.9=C2=A0=C2=A0 13.4 12.2 23:00 10.7 10.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 10.5=C2=A0 8.9 00:00=C2=A0 9.5=C2=A0 8.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 12.1=C2=A0 4.3 01:00=C2=A0 9.8=C2=A0 8.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 11.9=C2=A0 8.2=C2=A0 ******* 02:00=C2=A0 2.4=C2=A0 1.9=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 7.2=C2=A0 6.1=C2=A0 -VO1NA- 03:00=C2=A0 7.3=C2=A0 4.1=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.2 -1.3 04:00=C2=A0 1.7=C2=A0 3.0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5.5=C2=A0 2.9 05:00=C2=A0 8.5=C2=A0 5.4=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 8.3=C2=A0 4.2 06:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 10.0=C2=A0 8.9=20 07:00=C2=A0 5.7=C2=A0 5.8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 6.6=C2=A0 7.2 08:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.1=C2=A0 2= .3 (+0.2 mHz) K3RWR 137479 Hz: =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 DF6NM=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 DL0AO start=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 sym=C2=A0 car 20:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 K3RWR 20:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=20 21:00=C2=A0 2.3=C2=A0 1.5=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --- 21:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=20 22:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 2.0 -1.8=20 22:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=20 23:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.6=C2=A0 0= .1=C2=A0=20 23:30=C2=A0 6.4=C2=A0 3.1=C2=A0=C2=A0 11.3=C2=A0 8.2 00:00=C2=A0 5.0=C2=A0 2.7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.9 -3.5 00:30=C2=A0 5.4=C2=A0 4.8=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --- 01:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 --- 01:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 --- 02:00=C2=A0 5.1=C2=A0 3.9=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 3.6=C2=A0 3.1 02:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1.2 -0.8 03:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 --- 03:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 --- 04:00=C2=A0 2.8=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 --- 04:30=C2=A0 0.9 -1.3=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5.5=C2=A0 1.5 05:00=C2=A0 6.4=C2=A0 1.9=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.0 -1.6 05:30=C2=A0 4.0=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 5.9 -0.5 06:00 -1.6 -1.7=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1.2 -0.1 06:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4.4=C2=A0 0= .1 07:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0 ---=20 07:30=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 1.4=C2=A0 1= .8 08:00=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 ---=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.4=C2=A0 0= .2 Best 73, Markus ------=_Part_1263976_3335804.1544372786588 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Here's a summary of decodes from here last night. O= n average, SNR was significantly better than during the previous night. Unf= ortunately I had forgotten to activate data saves at DL0AO s= o these are missing.

EbNaut D= ecodes 2018-12-08/09

VO1NA 137477 Hz:
      &n= bsp; DF6NM
start  sym  car  message
22:00 15.4 17.4  .VO1NA.
23:00 14.6 15.9
00:00  1.3  7.4
01:00  8.9 13.9
02:00 16.0 18.3  GN BOB!
03:00  4.2  8.8
04:00  7.0  8.9
05:00 13.2 15.9  -VO1NA-
06:00 11.7 14.6
07:00 10.9 13.8
08:00&= nbsp; 1.3  0.8

K3RWR 137479 Hz:
        DF6NM
start  sym  = car  message
22:00&nbs= p; 3.4  4.5  GL_73
00:30  5.4  7.9  EB/N0
01:00  6.4  8.1
01:30  3.0  3.8
02:00  5.1  6.1
02:30  8.7  8.3  *RWR*
03:30  4.9  5.5
04:00  8.1  8.7
04:30  5.2  7.9
05:00  0.5  2.5
05:30  5.3  5.9
06:30  3.7  5.2
07:00  4.8  4.8
07:30  1.7  0.2

If you guys want to co= ntinue tonight I will try to run autodecoders on both sites: 
= http://df6nm.darc.de/opds/ebnautresults.txt
https://vlf.u01.de/LF/LFgrab= ber/ebnautresults.txt

All the best,
Markus (DF6NM)


---= --Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: jrusgrove@comcast.net <jrus= grove@comcast.net>
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org <rsgb_lf_group= @blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: So, 9. Dez 2018 1:50
Betreff: Re: LF:= LF and VLF EbNaut

Rob
 
Continued 'perfect' reception with CW ID.
 
 
 
Jay W1VD
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Rob Renoud <k3rwr@md.metrocast.net>
Sent: 12/8/2018 4:17:50 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF and VLF EbNaut
LF EbNaut & Markus,

There is a definite post sunset opening to Europe from the= NA East Coast.

I have modified my station to overlay a 10 minute CW ID (o= ff-on CW modulation at 20 wpm) on the EbNaut message stream.  Will be = interested to see what effect it has on decodes.  Am still transmittin= g a 5 character text message as before.

Tnx es 73,
Rob - K3RWR

On Dec 8, 2018, at 10:57, Markus Vester= <mark= usvester@aol.com> wrote:

Here are the Bavarian decodes from last night's sesseion. Eb/= N0 values derived from symbol error rate and carrier power were someti= mes rather inconsistent so both are mentioned here. As expected, the quiet = DL0AO site is generally a few dB better than mine, decoding VO1NA consisten= tly in every single slot.

I was amazed= by the early start from Canada. At this time of the year, such northe= rly paths are apparently close enough to darkness almost aro= und the clock. My 100 kHz monitor shows Loran signals from East China = rolling in already around midday here.

EbNaut Decod= es 2018-12-07/08

VO1NA 137477 Hz:
 &n= bsp;      DF6NM      = ; DL0AO
start  sym  car    sym  car
17:00  3.3  3.1    5.8  5.2  MARCON= I
18:00  8.6  9.5   12.3 13.3
19:00 = 5.7  7.4    6.7  7.1
20:00  4.0 = 1.9   12.0  7.8
21:00  2.3  5.0  = ; 11.8  7.3
22:00  7.1  7.9   13.4 12.2
23:00 10.7 10.8   10.5  8.9
00:00  9.5 = 8.4   12.1  4.3
01:00  9.8  8.5  = ; 11.9  8.2  *******
02:00  2.4  1.9  =   7.2  6.1  -VO1NA-
03:00  7.3  4.1 &n= bsp;  4.2 -1.3
04:00  1.7  3.0    5.5&= nbsp; 2.9
05:00  8.5  5.4    8.3  4.2<= /span>
06:00     ---     10.0 = 8.9
07:00  5.7  5.8    6.6  7.2
08:00     ---      3.1 = ; 2.3 (+0.2 mHz)

K3RWR 137479 Hz:
      =   DF6NM       DL0AO
start  s= ym  car    sym  car
20:00   =   ---         ---  &= nbsp; K3RWR
20:30     ---    = ;     --- 
21:00  2.3  1.5&nbs= p;      ---
21:30    = ---         --- 
22:0= 0     ---      2.0 -1.8
23:00     ---  &nb= sp;   4.6  0.1 
23:30  6.4  3.1&nbs= p;  11.3  8.2
00:00  5.0  2.7    = 3.9 -3.5
00:30  5.4  4.8     &nbs= p; ---
01:00     ---    &nbs= p;    ---
01:30     --- &nbs= p;       ---
02:00  5.1  3.9=     3.6  3.1
02:30     ---&n= bsp;     1.2 -0.8
03:00    = ---         ---
03:30 =     ---         ---<= /span>
04:00  2.8  0.4       ---
04:30  0.9 -1.3    5.5  1.5
05:00&nb= sp; 6.4  1.9    4.0 -1.6
05:30  4.0  0= .4    5.9 -0.5
06:00 -1.6 -1.7    1.2 = -0.1
06:30     ---     = 4.4  0.1
07:00     ---   &n= bsp;     ---
07:30     ---&= nbsp;     1.4  1.8
08:00   &= nbsp; ---      0.4  0.2

Best 73,
Markus
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