X-GM-THRID: 1208214225480177241 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a4728947ccc7c69a52f8d5dd4ba94221751f2ede Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.64.249.17 with SMTP id w17cs198880qbh; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.161.11 with SMTP id j11mr1606137nfe; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id o53si1264040nfa.2006.07.07.09.52.14; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 09:52:15 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FytWO-0001Cc-Nw for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:49:40 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FytWO-0001CT-B4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:49:40 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47] helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FytWK-0005oN-BC for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:49:40 +0100 Received: from aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060707164930.URRZ15018.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:49:30 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060707164930.DQVI29849.aamtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Fri, 7 Jul 2006 17:49:30 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 07 Jul 2006 17:49:06 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44AE9E92.32104.22ACD80@localhost> In-reply-to: <20060707144427.84172.qmail@web86508.mail.ird.yahoo.com> References: <006001c6a174$cfe29890$6501a8c0@eagles> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.8 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.658,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: Re: LF: Antenna Tuning Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5025 I am not convinced that this is the answer. My vertical wire is a few feet from my mast (admitedly a 2in pole, not a tower) and I have had no problems. It worked best with the pole earthed as it then looks like a capacitor, rather than a resistor. Worth a try, though. Mike, G3XDV ========== > Try to unground the tower and use it as the vertical part of your > antenna. It could be that relatively close spacing of the coax you use > as vertical part is coupling a lot of energy into the tower and it > goes directly to ground and not into the ether. > Keep at it and best of luck. > de Lech, G3KAU > > "J. Allen" wrote: > The tower is grounded at its base at this time, but is up on > insulators and > can be ungrounded easily by disconnecting a 1/0 grounding conductor. > > The vertical portion of the antenna is a piece of coaxial cable spaced > about 4 feet away from the tower. > > Still no luck finding the first resonant point. All points have been > checked from 20 kHz through 250 kHz. It acts like I have a big > capacitor connected to the end of the coax. At the base of the > antenna, I have installed a relay and can switch between the dummy > load and the antenna base loading network. Whatever is wrong is wrong > on the antenna side of that relay. If the dummy load is put on the > other connector it acts as a dummy should, so the problem is not in > the relay or its connection. If I substitute a lumped constant for the > antenna, the traces are as expected with the scope. > > I just do not seem to be able to find a resonant point using a > frequency divider and tiny amp. The scope traces are either sine wave > traces but with the voltage and current out of phase, or else really > convoluted forms which are in phase. > > I am still at step one. How to I get the two waveforms to coincide and > at the same time have them look like sinewaves? > > Any ideas where to go with this now? > > "J" > > > > >