X-GM-THRID: 1205697926190219922 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 422ce1a2292b5340723197d963247be02a754012 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.17 with SMTP id z17cs13859wrc; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 01:52:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.131.6 with SMTP id e6mr238495hud; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id 27si689291hua.2006.06.09.01.52.24; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 01:52:25 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FoccH-0002Cc-Br for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:45:17 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FoccG-0002CT-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:45:16 +0100 Received: from mta07-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.47] helo=mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1FoccB-0002e3-Tu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:45:16 +0100 Received: from aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com ([81.103.221.35]) by mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060609084117.FUWJ29343.mtaout01-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com> for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:17 +0100 Received: from mikedennison ([82.10.67.170]) by aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com with ESMTP id <20060609084117.CUJV16086.aamtaout04-winn.ispmail.ntl.com@mikedennison> for ; Fri, 9 Jun 2006 09:41:17 +0100 From: "Mike Dennison" To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Fri, 09 Jun 2006 09:41:05 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <44894231.30866.D42969@localhost> X-mailer: Pegasus Mail for Windows (4.21c) Content-description: Mail message body X-Spam-Score: 0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.911,DNS_FROM_RFC_POST=1.376,FORGED_RCVD_HELO=0.05 Subject: LF: IC706 vs TS850 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5943 Having changed my main station radio from an IC706 Mk1 to a TS- 850SAT, I have been able to compare the two at LF. The TS-850 is better than the IC-706 because: * It is much more sensitive at LF (even better than the IC-706 plus LF pre-amp). It works well down to 30kHz, though not specified. * Strong signal handling is better. * The AGC can be switched off. * More selectivity options (variable bandpass, notch). The IC-706 is better than the TS-850 because: * Frequency readout is down to 1Hz, rather than the 850's 10Hz. * Tuning is in 1Hz steps. The 850 is 10Hz, even on so-called 'Fine' which does not fine tune, it just reduces the Hz/revolution. * Frequency stability is better. * Frequency accuracy is better. My old and battered 706 could be set accurately to within 1Hz anywhere in its spectrum. I could confidently measure frequency with Argo down to 0.1Hz after calibrating the radio against 198kHz. By contrast, my 850 has an error varying from zero to several Hz from one end of each 500kHz 'chunk' to the other. * The tuning knob has a finger hole which makes frequency changes much easier, both when fine tuning and rapidly changing frequency. In short, the TS-850 is a better radio, but the synthesiser and its tuning knob are poorer than the IC-706. Hope this helps someone. 73 de Mike, G3XDV ==============