X-GM-THRID: 1202173441387390069 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: bc3dd08ca408fd27e3c2dbc9d854eb28d33439be Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.72.15 with SMTP id u15cs10929wra; Tue, 2 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.162.20 with SMTP id k20mr174617nfe; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id k24si908808nfc.2006.05.02.16.18.53; Tue, 02 May 2006 16:18:54 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb44z-0000Fx-Qk for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:14:53 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Fb44z-0000Fi-Dq for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 00:14:53 +0100 Received: from smtp.wp.pl ([212.77.101.1]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1Fb5wP-0008R2-VE for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 03 May 2006 02:14:28 +0100 Received: (wp-smtpd smtp.wp.pl 28749 invoked from network); 3 May 2006 01:14:27 +0200 Received: from br198.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (HELO [192.168.0.103]) (sq5bpm@[80.53.201.198]) (envelope-sender ) by smtp.wp.pl (WP-SMTPD) with RC4-MD5 encrypted SMTP for ; 3 May 2006 01:14:27 +0200 Message-ID: <4457E7CE.9020707@wp.pl> Date: Wed, 03 May 2006 01:14:22 +0200 From: Marek SQ5BPM User-Agent: Thunderbird 1.5.0.2 (Windows/20060308) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <4455EC86.2050807@wp.pl> <44567AF2.7000506@ukonline.co.uk> <011501c66d63$e1d39e90$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44567E97.2050205@wp.pl> <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> In-Reply-To: <1146520170.4456826a52d9b@webmail2.kuleuven.be> X-WP-AV: skaner antywirusowy poczty Wirtualnej Polski S. A. X-WP-SPAM: NO AS1=NO(Body=1 Fuz1=1 Fuz2=1) AS2=YES(1.000000) AS3=NO AS4=NO X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.093 Subject: Re: LF: EMF sensitivity? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6030 Hello Rik and all, Now I am nearly sure this was the UVB, the result is almost like spending too much time at the sun, with the skin dry etc. This happened only on the side of my face directly exposed to the loading coil. Sincerely, I had no idea the coronal effect might be something to care about due to possible health injuries (excluding direct touching of a HV wire). Anyway, I will take an old plastic trash bin, wind some 100 turns and put it up on the roof, between the vertical antenna part and the top load. This will hopefully reduce the voltage and power losses inside the club room. The loading coil inside the club will then act only as the PA output matching network and a variometer. All in all, this is something to add in descriptions of loading coils: (invisible) coronal effects may cause UVB radiation that might be harmful for the skin after longer exposure. BTW I checked that the UV radiation level is not enough for the coil to act as a banknote checker ;) 73! Marek SQ5BPM Rik Strobbe wrote: > Marek, > > UV-light can cause irritation (or "burning") of the skin at > intensities far below what can be detected by UV-sensitive markers. > It's just a matter of how long you are exposed to it. > Maybe you could try a good "sun-block" cream (the ones you use when > going to the beach in summer) on you face. > If it is UV that causes the rash: glass blocks UV rather effective. It > would stop teh UV while still allowing visual control of the coil. > > 73, > Rik ON7YD & OR7T > > Citeren Marek SQ5BPM : > > >> Hello Peter, >> >> Peter Martinez wrote: >> >>>> From Peter G3PLX: >>>> >>> Marek: >>> >>> The 'rash' or 'burning' effect makes me think of sunburn or >>> >> exposure >> >>> to ultra-violet light. >>> >>> Could it be that there is some ionisation, perhaps due to high >>> voltages, which gives off UV radiation which could affect the skin >>> >> of >> >>> the face if it's directly in front of the operator? It would be >>> >> easy >> >>> to test this idea by operating the equipment in a low light level >>> >> and >> >>> probing the area with a some object that was known to be >>> >> fluorescent, >> >>> like a UV-sensitive marker pen. >>> >> I thought about something connected with the high voltage as well - >> maybe high electrostatic field etc. I didn't know that ionisation may >> >> cause UV radiation. I will check the idea, placing a banknote near >> the >> coil output ;) >> >> The UV idea makes sense, the rash appeared on the side of my face >> being >> in direct 'exposure' to the coil, not at the side of the >> transmitter. >> >> 73! Marek SQ5BPM >> >> >> > > > > > Disclaimer: http://www.kuleuven.be/cwis/email_disclaimer.htm > > > > >