X-GM-THRID: 1201092871102915278 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: e888ab496f2341abfc086b4b6009f515c0dd5f77 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs21665wra; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.64.151.2 with SMTP id y2mr2493815qbd; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id e10si23291qbe.2006.04.19.13.07.28; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 13:07:30 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FWIvV-0001g0-OF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:05:25 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FWIvV-0001fr-B9 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 21:05:25 +0100 Received: from mtiwmhc11.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.115]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FWKF0-0006hk-PD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 22:29:40 +0100 Received: from [10.0.252.126] (unknown[166.82.181.249]) by worldnet.att.net (mtiwmhc11) with ESMTP id <200604192004341110050st1e>; Wed, 19 Apr 2006 20:04:39 +0000 Message-ID: <444697CF.80806@att.net> Date: Wed, 19 Apr 2006 16:04:31 -0400 From: Dexter McIntyre User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <6.1.0.6.2.20060419144651.02a19240@127.0.0.1> <5.1.0.14.0.20060419162451.02431a98@u0019445.kuleuven.be> <6.1.0.6.2.20060419171908.02a17870@127.0.0.1> <000a01c663e3$9600aaf0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <000a01c663e3$9600aaf0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,none Subject: Re: LF: Top load coil at ground level? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6683 Peter Martinez wrote: > Effectively what Dick is suggesting is having the coil physically at the > bottom where it can be housed and adjusted, but electrically at the top. > This is done by extending two wires down the antenna such that the > currents in these two wires are equal and opposite and they therefore > make no contribution (or degradation) of the antenna performance. If > the antenna is electrically short anyway, it doesn't help to say this is > a stub with a specific electrical length, it's just a coil connected > into it's place with a pair of wires. > > If the antenna was hollow, or like a lattice tower, the wire from the > top hat could come down to the bottom inside the structure, so long as > it didn't arc across! This type of antenna is what I used for WD2XKO during most of the past winter. It seems to work well. A US patent was issued which covers this design. A link to the patent is on the WD2XKO web page at: http://www.w4dex.com/wd2xko.htm Dex, W4DEX / WD2XKO