X-GM-THRID: 1200640713861187942 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 3b4daa3b909a713e9cddf7273601004afed0ed76 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs20979wra; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:10:12 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.48.206.7 with SMTP id d7mr401966nfg; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id q28si1564190nfc.2006.04.14.06.10.10; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 06:10:11 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FUO0K-0000k8-6R for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:06:28 +0100 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FUO0J-0000jz-JM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 14:06:27 +0100 Received: from vms042pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.42]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FUPkp-0006A0-KS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 15:58:54 +0100 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([141.156.217.88]) by vms042.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-4.02 (built Sep 9 2005)) with ESMTPA id <0IXP00AIWR23WQG4@vms042.mailsrvcs.net> for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 14 Apr 2006 08:06:07 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2006 09:06:02 -0400 From: Andre Kesteloot To: AMRAD Tacos , rsgb_lf_group Message-id: <443F9E3A.5050900@verizon.net> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax;nscd1) X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.143 Subject: LF: BPL Problems Unresolved Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=LINES_OF_YELLING autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 5847 ==>MANASSAS BPL SYSTEM STILL INTERFERING DESPITE CLAIMS TO THE CONTRARY Interference from the Manassas, Virginia, BPL system persists on ham radio frequencies, radio amateurs there say. Their reports fly in the face of an April 7 news release from system operator COMTek that a recent engineering survey found "no interference unique to BPL" in the amateur bands. On April 6, COMTek filed a report with the FCC in response to an earlier interference complaint from Dwight Agnew, AI4II. COMTek said it does not believe the Manassas BPL system caused the interference Agnew and other Manassas ham radio operators have heard. Agnew told the ARRL this week that the BPL interference continues. "Yes, it's still there," Agnew said. "Some days it will blow your ears off, other days not," he explained. "It varies. That's what's so aggravating about it." Another Manassas amateur, George Tarnovsky, K4GVT, who's also complained to the FCC of BPL interference, echoed Agnew's report. He told the ARRL the BPL signal still can be heard along "miles of road" on 40 meters as well as 20, 17 and 15 meters. "It's everywhere," Tarnovsky said. He points out the interference level varies based on how heavily the system's approximately 900 customers are using the system. In its April 6 filing with the FCC, COMTek--which operates the BPL system for the city--said it takes interference complaints seriously and is conducting "an ongoing investigation" to determine whether the "alleged interference" is coming from its equipment. The Manassas system uses Main.net equipment on frequencies between 4 MHz and 30 MHz, according to the BPL database. On March 7, FCC Spectrum Enforcement Division Chief Joseph P. Casey requested the city and COMTek to follow up on Agnew's January 19 complaint citing harmful BPL interference along Virginia Business Route 234. The Commission told the city to test its system to be sure it complies with FCC Part 15 rules and to "resolve any continuing harmful interference." COMTek's FCC filing included a test report by Product Safety Engineering Inc of Dade City, Florida, outlining BPL system measurements made on 40 meters at one location on Route 234. Product Safety Engineering tempered its report, however, by saying its measurements "were not intended to qualify the system or BPL equipment with respect to compliance with the FCC rules." They were intended to "assist the client in gaining an understanding of the interference potential" of the BPL equipment at "a specific location," the engineering firm said. Conceding that the engineering firm's report was interim and "not fully compliant with the FCC's new measurement guidelines," COMTek told the FCC it would supply a complete survey by April 14. The ARRL already has called on the FCC to shut down the Manassas system until it complies with FCC Part 15 rules. ARRL CEO David Sumner, K1ZZ, says COMTek's April 6 FCC filing failed to provide what Casey had requested last month. That included making measurements at multiple locations Agnew described in his January complaint. The engineering report also gives no indication that the tests were performed during peak system usage hours, as the FCC had required. "No explanation was provided as to why COMTek was unable to comply with the FCC requirement to resolve the interference complaint and to report within 30 days," Sumner said. "Yet on April 7, COMTek issued a news release that claimed 'rigorous FCC-mandated testing' had been completed. In fact, the testing completed as of that date failed to comply with FCC requirements, as acknowledged by COMTek itself." Sumner said "the test results are meaningless" as a measure of the radio interference emanating from the Manassas BPL system. "Using the test equipment described in the test report to check for radio interference is like using an oven thermometer to check for a fever." Sumner reiterated the League's request that the FCC order the Manassas BPL system disabled "until its operation is able to comply fully with the FCC rules and instructions." ARRL Laboratory Manager Ed Hare, W1RFI, charged COMTek with "trying to fix interference problems with press releases." ARRL's technical analysis of the testing indicates COMTek cannot show that it's able to meet FCC-required emission limits, Hare said, and doesn't even demonstrate that its system is not causing harmful interference. Hare said BPL manufacturers and providers whose technology can operate compatibly with Amateur Radio have been working closely with the ARRL and local amateurs. "Those that cannot are taking preliminary test results and turning them into 'everything-is-wonderful now' news releases," he said. "From a technical point of view, that moves us further from solutions, not toward them."