X-GM-THRID: 1199366284791738298 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: a609c476134ba94f8cdae081e6a8444aa3019a7b Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.70.6 with SMTP id s6cs12527wra; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.49.18.15 with SMTP id v15mr3524413nfi; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id c1si80121nfe.2006.04.10.00.17.32; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 00:17:33 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FSqc1-0007WY-KT for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:15:01 +0100 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FSqc1-0007WP-7k for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:15:01 +0100 Received: from pythagoras.zen.co.uk ([212.23.3.140]) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FSrqt-0007b5-9u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 09:34:28 +0100 Received: from [82.68.48.134] (helo=[192.168.0.113]) by pythagoras.zen.co.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.30) id 1FSqbz-0003DO-0R for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 10 Apr 2006 07:14:59 +0000 Message-ID: <443A05EE.1070703@g3ysx.org.uk> Date: Mon, 10 Apr 2006 08:14:54 +0100 From: Stewart Bryant User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.2) Gecko/20040804 Netscape/7.2 (ax) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <200603311839550854.021DC57E@smtp.wanadoo.fr> <000601c65582$aefd8ec0$cada380a@acer5gi5q0ubzj> <8bf118410604040532gf1861f9r9dfaa0fe2d6f4be1@mail.gmail.com> <004501c657e5$b779fbf0$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> <44395583.9070200@g3ysx.org.uk> <004b01c65c09$afc51e30$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> In-Reply-To: <004b01c65c09$afc51e30$0300a8c0@LAPTOP> X-Originating-Pythagoras-IP: [82.68.48.134] X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-0.650 Subject: Re: LF: Rugby LORAN measurement? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6616 Peter Martinez wrote: >> From G3PLX: > > > I don't think the presence of the spurious emission (near 60kHz) from > the LORAN transmitter would cause any trouble to MSF itself. A quick > calculation says that the nearest spurii from the Rugby LORAN > transmitter to the MSF transmission would be respectively 8.9139804 Hz > low and 5.94265 Hz high of 60kHz, and probably a long long way down on > the main 60kHz carrier. The accuracy of MSF is 2 parts in 10E12, so systematic interference even a long long way down may well have an effect. It will depend on the design of the receiver and whether it has a front end filter that has high rejection at +6Hz, -8Hz, but prior to the LORAN transmitter. - Stewart G3YSX >