Return-Path: Received: from rly-md02.mx.aol.com (rly-md02.mail.aol.com [172.20.29.140]) by air-md10.mail.aol.com (v126.13) with ESMTP id MAILINMD103-8ee4b203326124; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:31:17 -0500 Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by rly-md02.mx.aol.com (v125.7) with ESMTP id MAILRELAYINMD026-8ee4b203326124; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 18:30:48 -0500 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1NIVyp-0006Xk-L2 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:29:59 +0000 Received: from [83.244.159.144] (helo=relay3.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1NIVyp-0006Xa-1V for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:29:59 +0000 Received: from web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com ([217.146.182.128]) by relay3.thorcom.net with smtp (Exim 4.63) (envelope-from ) id 1NIVyo-0004BV-Tw for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 23:29:58 +0000 Received: (qmail 42829 invoked by uid 60001); 9 Dec 2009 23:29:53 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.co.uk; s=s1024; t=1260401393; bh=o+fV4vJBp63kZymQT6vanLPxFONw8eDXqV08ieWWWoQ=; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=xa1j2r+Q2cebwR5c7bsFOkraPXS0zTFUmLoMYia54BBECOyv0FaTKnJ1cpeu4AYE4Bmm773ieKE2Yw9jagEXG9KcLuP3C6ydr5xtYU47NElLR+kl7/R+uDImIrASHPD1IASjTtT+nuTJyAEdPM8NuoiVmwjeW4xnUUeYGjN/tnU= DomainKey-Signature:a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.co.uk; h=Message-ID:X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=aVfyXVgIhlDtv9vr9dV/XwYqjouqCp54aKFXx95aPD2KJzsNXvqESMCYe3d93nAJFKH6opWYPlUhVU7eJKRvYhWG9HBuVf1q3TK5CNaHUmO5oL+RkXp+w0OBEXb5trJSFVEQL5aV2jAmi2Mpa9bGt1lUl8+Sq6r/E5FCCA9IeUI=; Message-ID: <442802.42688.qm@web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com> X-YMail-OSG: dBeM4qIVM1lzXfxk5iMCvlQgfzrJjfhVkzHah5sD2sJM7u5XrmrKT1Xc5ZkON5Bq0t5r0w91zdCmt1xXP5UQInLcPRn3579svZM2P0mRhnShnhXgdkm9IZg2plSOS22Qd0mdaJay7rEUR8_W0310SSZjnlZV281CyqdoWOuvCNUEWW2sjMhRuyvRewsnf3Du1Mg.8sUM8tYLouUFw8aOb.AV1e5uv0PgFnZDqRIxFHdOVBHHMGEMuDi0Z2J.T6YmPZ7j86JbclOBR8xMvdJH Received: from [86.130.68.177] by web28108.mail.ukl.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 09 Dec 2009 15:29:52 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailClassic/9.0.19 YahooMailWebService/0.8.100.260964 Date: Wed, 9 Dec 2009 15:29:52 -0800 (PST) From: M0FMT To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 DomainKey-Status: good (testing) Subject: Re: LF: TX-2200A Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1716108341-1260401392=:42688" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-AOL-IP: 193.82.116.20 X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mail_rly_antispam_dkim-d281.2 ; domain : yahoo.co.uk DKIM : pass --0-1716108341-1260401392=:42688 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =A0 Don't worry mate this copyright thing is out of control. The local CLUB to= me copyrights all it's projects and woebetide you try to copy their cribb= ed designs. No such thing as open source if you can put the letter "c" ins= ide a litttle circle. I've personally felt the indirect effects of this ki= nd of stupidity!! =A0 I agree a skeleton rig for 136 at 100watts cw only, xtal controlled=A0 bet= ween =A310 to =A330 tops depending on junk box and success at not blowing= FETs. =A0 73 petefmt --- On Wed, 9/12/09, Andy Talbot wrote: From: Andy Talbot Subject: Re: LF: TX-2200A To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 19:18 To quote the data sheet : =A0 "The TX-2200A=20 lets you turn the clock back and explore long waves, but with technology that the early pioneers could not even dream of. In a package around the same size as many transceivers this little gem of engineering will provide up to 100 Watts of output power." =A0 With a CW only option and if it really is a VFO, resulting poor stability= =A0its just an appalingingly ludicrous joke. =A0 And anyone buying such= just deserves the contempt they'll get using it. =A0 LF was alwatys considered to be the last bastion of real homebrew and expe= riimentation. Rant over. =A0 But kudos to the manufacturer if they can exploit the gullible :-)=A0=A0= =A0 I wonder if its a rip-off of any designs published in the open literat= ure here=A0 There have been quite a few 100 Watt 137 transmitters=A0weblic= ised - who will be the first to claim his copyright infringements. =A0 My 700 Watt Class D Tx=A0=A0 =A0http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.pdf=A0 probably= would cost in the region of =A330 - =A340 buying most of the components,= but without the DDS driver.=A0 Never really priced it as new -=A0everythi= ng came from the junkbox. =A0 =A0 =A0 Andy www.g4jnt.com =A0 This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health and sa= fety police =A0 =A0 =A0 2009/12/9 Warren Ziegler : > Interesting new rig offered by Waters and Stanton - the TX-2200A 100 > Watt class D transmitter for 136kHz - VFO controlled with receiver > muting. > Made in Japan, relatively pricey though at 690 GBP! > > http://wsplc.com/pdf/TX-2200A.pdf > > > > 73 Warren K2ORS > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XGJ > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WD2XSH/23 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XEB/2 > =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0WE2XGR/1 > > =A0 =A0 =20 --0-1716108341-1260401392=:42688 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 
Don't worry mate this copyright thing is out of control. The local CL= UB to me copyrights all it's projects and woebetide you try to copy their cribbed designs. No such thing as open so= urce if you can put the letter "c" inside a litttle circle. I've personall= y felt the indirect effects of this kind of stupidity!!
 
I agree a skeleton rig for 136 at 100watts cw only, xtal controlled&n= bsp; between =A310 to =A330 tops depending on junk box and success at not= blowing FETs.
 
73 petefmt

--- On Wed, 9/12/09, Andy Talbot <andy.g4j= nt@googlemail.com> wrote:

From: Andy Talbot <andy.g4jnt@googlemail.co= m>
Subject: Re: LF: TX-2200A
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
= Date: Wednesday, 9 December, 2009, 19:18

To quote the data sheet :
 
"The TX-2200A
lets you turn the clock back and explore long waves,
but with technology that the early pioneers could not
even dream of. In a package around the same size as
many transceivers this little gem of engineering will
provide up to 100 Watts of output power."
 
With a CW only option and if it really is a VFO, resulting poor stabi= lity  its just an appalingingly ludicrous joke.   And anyone buy= ing such just deserves the contempt they'll get using it.
 
LF was alwatys considered to be the last bastion of real homebrew and= experiimentation.
Rant over.
 
But kudos to the manufacturer if they can exploit the gullible :-)&nb= sp;   I wonder if its a rip-off of any designs published in the= open literature here  There have been quite a few 100 Watt 137 trans= mitters weblicised - who will be the first to claim his copyright inf= ringements.
 
My 700 Watt Class D Tx    http://www.g4jnt.com/137tx.p= df  probably would cost in the region of =A330 - =A340 buying mos= t of the components, but without the DDS driver.  Never really priced= it as new - everything came from the junkbox.
 
 
 
Andy
 
This email has been scanned for damaging side-effects by the health= and safety police
 
 
 
2009/12/9 Warren Ziegler <wd2xgj@gmail.com>:
> Interesting new rig offered by Waters and Stanton - the TX-2200A= 100
> Watt class D transmitter for 136kHz - VFO controlled with receiv= er
> muting.
> Made in Japan, relatively pricey though at 690 GBP!
>
>
>
>
> 73 Warren K2ORS
>                WD2XGJ
>                WD2XSH/23=
>                WE2XEB/2<= /DIV>
>                WE2XGR/1<= /DIV>
>
>
 
 

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