X-GM-THRID: 1198833922181187666 X-Gmail-Labels: rsgb lf X-Gmail-Received: 5095fe668bc56d74be3fe7bff977e6f464127da1 Delivered-To: daveyxm@gmail.com Received: by 10.54.127.8 with SMTP id z8cs14104wrc; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.65.103.20 with SMTP id f20mr1657090qbm; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [193.82.116.20]) by mx.gmail.com with ESMTP id p4si1796992qba.2006.03.25.13.07.06; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 13:07:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (gmail.com: 193.82.116.20 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFwq-0005W9-KC for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:24 +0000 Received: from [193.82.116.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1FNFwq-0005W0-8x for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:24 +0000 Received: from smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net ([212.135.6.10]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1FNHa3-0003l1-OY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 22:50:14 +0000 Received: from bb-87-82-8-230.ukonline.co.uk ([87.82.8.230] helo=[192.168.0.2]) by smarthost0.mail.uk.easynet.net with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 1FNFwZ-0009eo-00 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:05:07 +0000 Message-ID: <4425B61B.3070902@ukonline.co.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 21:28:59 +0000 From: Peter Dodd User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.7 (Windows/20050923) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <032520061429.5682.442553C700054BD40000163222070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> In-Reply-To: <032520061429.5682.442553C700054BD40000163222070009530B97010D0A020E06979D0E03@comcast.net> X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: autolearn=disabled,AWL=-1.299 Subject: Re: LF: Re: [LW] Antenna question Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false Status: O X-Status: X-Keywords: X-UID: 6101 Warren K2ORS/WD2XGJ wrote: >J.B., > > I take it this is a transmitting antenna? If so, then it will depend on how much power you are running and what kind of insulators you are using so you don't arc over from the top wire to the grounded tower. It will help if you use non conductive rope (dacron) between the tower and the insulator. I imagine that your biggest problems would occur if you ran high power and the insulators were wet. It would be a good idea to use the ceramic dogbone or other insulator with a long leakage path. > > > During the period when I was transmitting using high power (1kW) with a suburban antenna I noticed that once in a while it fell down - the insulated line between the insulator and the support just 'broke'. It turned out that the problem was caused by leakage across the insulator when it became dirty or there was a build up of salt (I am about 400m from the sea). This occured even though I was using PA0SE supplied ceramic insulators about 120mm (5in) long. The problem was fixed by using copper wire between the insulator and the support. I had a ritual of insulator cleaning, and inspecting the insulators in the dark with the transmitter switched on looking for blue tracking. The problem only seemed to occur if the insulated cord support was relatively short, say less than 2m long. Prolonged tracking across an insulator will etch a track in the ceramic glaze of the insulator and render is useless. Peter, G3LDO