Envelope-to: dave@picks.force9.co.uk Delivery-date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:09 +0000 Received: by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with spam-scanned (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuyKi-000159-Ad for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:09 +0000 Received: from post.thorcom.com ([193.82.116.20]) by ptb-mxcore02.plus.net with esmtp (PlusNet MXCore v2.00) id 1EuyKi-00014o-43 for dave@picks.force9.co.uk; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:37:08 +0000 Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1EuyJu-000762-Md for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:18 +0000 Received: from [193.82.59.130] (helo=relay2.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1EuyJt-00075t-VH for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:18 +0000 Received: from [216.148.227.153] (helo=rwcrmhc12.comcast.net) by relay2.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.51) id 1EuypA-0006ua-NF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Fri, 06 Jan 2006 21:08:37 +0000 Received: from [192.168.15.107] (pcp01445734pcs.lebnon01.pa.comcast.net[68.83.65.41]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc13) with SMTP id <2006010620360901500e2kaoe>; Fri, 6 Jan 2006 20:36:09 +0000 Received: from 127.0.0.1 (AVG SMTP 7.0.300 [267.14.11]); Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:10 +0000 Message-ID: <43BED4B9.3000204@hifidelity.com> Date: Fri, 06 Jan 2006 20:36:09 +0000 From: Steve Dove User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (Windows/20050716) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <60.64c0679e.30f00b8e@aol.com> <002001c612f2$24af6d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> In-Reply-To: <002001c612f2$24af6d60$045bfea9@d4f8d8> Mime-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: LF: The bells, the bells! Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-PN-SpamFiltered: by PlusNet MXCore (v2.00) Hi Andy, et al, Yeah, "The Bells" were within a few kHz of 1900kHz, although occasionally you could find one higher or lower. There were some down around 1750-ish, too. They were Decca variants, harbour- or estuary-wide in scope, called 'HiFix', and latterly 'Hyperfix'. Same idea, a master pulse, then repeated (3? 4?) slave pulses slightly off frequency. A cluster of them together was indeed melodious. When I first had a decent topband setup here, 20 years ago, I could hear a chain around 1900 as well, probably Baltimore harbour or Philadelphia dockyards. I too first tasted hambone flesh on topband in the sixties; the unbelievably lethal contraptions hammer-and-nailed together to make (what we could only hope was) 10W would give me heart attack if either of my kids did the same today. (Like messing with fireworks - it's amazing any of us are still alive and fully limbed, really.) Dad's prized Leak hifi amp 'borrowed' as a modulator. Wires all over - it was wonderful. And, yes Alan, working one's first OK on topband was a rite of passage; a rosy glow of super-being-dom for days afterwards! In deepest, darkest Henley-on-Thames, Loran daytime clobbered say 1930-1970-ish kHz; there were two chains audible simultaneously, hence the cyclical 'phasing' sound between them. Night-time, another bunch appeared centred on 1850. Fancifully we presumed it was an American/Canadian chain, but the probable reality was that it was from the top end of Scotland or such. Never had the presence of mind to record Loran (or The Bells), which considering the radio 'junk' and the recording 'junk' cohabited the same space and were to an unpracticed eye one-and-the-same 'junk', was a sad oversight. It would be intriguing to find out where those Loran 'A' sites were. And here we are waiting fingers crossed for Loran 'C' to go away. Trouble is, what'll we do for easy calibration, then? And will I have the presence of mind to record IT before it goes . . . Cheers, Steve G3YDV in a former life Andy Talbot wrote: > > When I used to listen 30 years ago on AM in a wide(ish) bandwidth at = > ~1900kHz, it sounded like a bell jangling -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 267.14.11 - Release Date: 01/02/06